Popjustice » Interviews & Features http://www.popjustice.com Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:35:23 +0000 en-US hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 Ten bits of information about The Veronicas’ new album, as relayed by The Veronicas themselves http://www.popjustice.com/interviewsandfeatures/ten-bits-of-information-about-the-veronicas-new-album-as-relayed-by-the-veronicas-themselves/132123/ http://www.popjustice.com/interviewsandfeatures/ten-bits-of-information-about-the-veronicas-new-album-as-relayed-by-the-veronicas-themselves/132123/#comments Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:29:48 +0000 http://www.popjustice.com/?p=132123 The Veronicas

Actual twins Lisa and Jessica Origliasso, aka The Veronicas, have been a bit quiet of late. In fact, their last album was released seven whole years ago, which is put into sharper contrast when you realise that at that point Lady Gaga was still banging about on a piano doing jazz covers in (YOU’RE FIRED – ED)

Anyway, the creators of ‘4Ever’ – surely one of the Top 100 greatest songs of all time – are back back back with their deliciously gloomy new single ‘You Ruin Me’ (listen to it above if you like) and will release their self-titled third album in February next year (it’s out in Australia later this month, obviously).

With that in mind, we thought it might be a good idea to have a chat with Jessica Veronica about what’s taken them so long, the ‘general vibe’ of the album, who they’ve worked with and so on.

Here all that is in the form of an easy to digest ten-point overview thing.


“We were in a legal battle with our old record company, basically. They weren’t releasing our music and so it took a few years to get off there. So we weren’t able to release music in that time which is why it took so bloody long, but the good news is that we got to do lots and lots of writing in the studio in that time and we got to live life and be inspired by a lot of things we were going through. So we’ve been able to make this really special record we’re really proud of.”


“There are songs on this record that have been taken from that time and then there are new songs we’ve written as well. But it’s basically 14 songs and half of them come from that period and half are from now.”


“Of course this new version is better! The songs that we still loved have come with us. We didn’t let them go or anything. Every song we create is special to us, and it’s an eclectic record, but we also wanted to create a record that was cohesive. ‘Lolita’ isn’t on the album because it represents a very specific moment in time, that song. It’s almost too far removed from what we’ve created on this album. To be honest, it was never intended to be part of an album, it was released to tide Australia over because it was taking too long.”


“It’s definitely a pop album. There are big pop songs on there, but it’s more of a conceptual album in terms of it being a true sonic representation of the journey we’ve been on for the last few years. There are songs that are rock n roll and blues and swamp (!) and crazy trip hop and acoustic-pop-country and soul. There are a lot of different sonic elements and styles on there but that’s because we’re so influenced by our environment and making songs in Nashville, LA and Sweden, those environments influenced us. Some turned out a lot more pop, some were more rock and passionate and then there are very vulnerable songs like ‘You Ruin Me’, and then some are upbeat, happy pop songs. The great thing about all of it was that it was all really authentic – we didn’t sit in the studio and decide on what sort of songs we wanted to make. It was about how we were feeling at that particular moment.”


“It almost feels like our debut album just in the sense that it’s a rebirth for our band. That’s why. It’s the only time we would get to do a self-titled record. It felt right. We’ve read multiple sources quoting these absolutely ridiculous titles for the album that were apparently in the running, but they’re all completely laughable. We have no idea where people got them from. The only other title that was a possibility was ‘Life On Mars’ back in 2012, but because this has moved on from that incarnation it felt like we wanted to drop all labels and anything attached to that and go with ‘The Veronicas’.”


“We worked with Toby Gad, who we did ‘Untouched’ and ‘Hook Me Up’ with. And we worked with a songwriting couple, Leah Haywood and Dan Pringle, as well as Nellee Hooper and Emeli Sandé. She’s got a song on the record called ‘Always’, which is an unbelievable song. And Billy Corgan from The Smashing Pumpkins.”


“The honesty of ‘You Ruin Me’ is very indicative of the approach we’ve taken with that vulnerability and rawness of the record. Sonically it’s more along the lines of ‘Line Of Fire’ though. We released ‘You Ruin Me’ first because we wanted to show a different side to us as far as the general public goes because they probably only know our other singles. We didn’t want to come out and do what people were expecting. We wanted to see if people knew it was us and some people didn’t actually.”


“If we got to pick when you first heard it we’d want you to listen to it on headphones, lying on the floor with a glass of wine, a bunch of candles lit and with incense burning. Then when you’re onto the third glass of wine we’d want you to listen again from top to bottom. That sounds a bit like a fire hazard, but we’re okay with that.”


“We’d say a song called ‘Did You Miss Me?’ or ‘Teenage Millionaire’ could work in a night club. ‘Cruel’ and another song called ‘If You Love Someone’ would be best listened to in the car and we’d say ‘Mad Love’ for the supermarket. It just makes us feel like we want to grab cans of Campbell’s soup and throw them down aisles or something.”


“We don’t have expectations. We don’t like to focus on that stuff because it makes us anxious. We’re so excited for people to hear the album because we’ve worked so hard on pouring our hearts and souls into the music. We’re so excited for that.”


‘You Ruin Me’ is out now in the UK. ‘The Veronicas’ is out in Australia on November 21 and in the UK on February 23.

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Marvin Humes interview: “I knew I didn’t want to be a singer any more…” http://www.popjustice.com/interviewsandfeatures/marvin-humes-interview-i-knew-i-didnt-want-to-be-a-singer-any-more/131493/ http://www.popjustice.com/interviewsandfeatures/marvin-humes-interview-i-knew-i-didnt-want-to-be-a-singer-any-more/131493/#comments Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:31:16 +0000 http://www.popjustice.com/?p=131493 “I knew I didn’t want to be a singer any more.”


One of the saddest things about JLS splitting up was that we thought, for a moment, that we might never again be able to bang a load of questions into Marvin Humes’ face without the police being called.

Fortunately, because he wasn’t quite busy enough being a DJ on Capital FM and a part-time TV presenter, Marvin decided to start a new band called LuvBug, whose first single ‘Resonance’ is out this week.

The other two chaps in LuvBug are the ones whose faces you can half see in the photograph above but we made the very difficult decision that it would be Marvin we spoke to for this interview.

Here is the chat we had.

Hello, Marvin! How are your various careers going?
It’s all going well. It’s going really well, I’m really enjoying it all.

It seems like you’re doing exactly the right thing at the moment, which is not trying to wring too much out of the fact that you used to be in a popular boyband.
You’re right. For me it was always a difficult one, knowing what to do after something that had been so successful. So it was about doing things I was passionate about. I’d been DJing for a long time, since before JLS, and I’ve been a fan of house music for a long time. I knew I wanted to stay in the music industry but also I knew I didn’t want to be a singer any more. So to be able to produce and write a dance album featuring other singers is perfect.

Do you not think it’s a scandal that you’re depriving the world of your beautiful vocal tones?

But seriously who are you to decide? It’s almost a human rights issue, that people should be able to hear your warbling. But no. You’ve decided to fly in the face of that.
Well you’re very kind but there’s enough of a JLS back catalogue to keep you happy. As for new stuff: I’ll let other people do that.

You know how when you’re doing a shit job you convince yourself that it’s alright, just to stay sane, but as soon as you’ve left it you can finally admit to yourself that it was bloody rubbish? Well, looking back on JLS, what percentage of the music you released was actually good?
You know what, I don’t think we ever put anything out that we weren’t happy with at the time. To start with we weren’t exactly sure which direction to take because of course when we first got together we were a vocal harmony R&B band – during The X Factor we knew, and we made a conscious decision, that we would have to be more commercial. Which worked, given the platform we’d been given. I don’t think I’d change anything we did. I’m proud of what we achieved – I still listen to JLS albums now!

So you sit around at home listening to old JLS albums? That’s kind of romantic in a way but also quite tragic.
Well I wouldn’t sit at home and play them but I’ll go through my iTunes sometimes when I’m on a plane and listen to JLS songs. Among many other songs, obviously.


And this LuvBug thing – it started over 18 months ago, right?

And when did JLS split up?
Er, well, we gave each other a lot of notice, me and the JLS boys. We finished in December 2013 but we’d made the decision a long time before that, and when I knew it was going to end I thought, ‘right, I want to stay in music, what shall I do’. I had a couple of producer friends I’d always wanted to work with, so I spoke to them and got into the studio. It naturally formed.

You know when a friend goes ‘here’s my new boyfriend!’ and says they’ve been going out for eight months, and you say ‘hang on, didn’t you split up with your last boyfriend six months ago?’ and they go ‘er…’?
(Laughs) You’re talking about crossover.

Was there crossover?
Well, yeah! But it wasn’t like I was cheating on JLS!

Wasn’t it though?
We all knew that it was coming to an end so all of us were walking on our own things – Aston on his solo album for instance.

When the LuvBug single was first sent to Popjustice I thought, ‘this is fine but it doesn’t really blow my mind’ so didn’t cover it. Then it turned out that you were involved and I thought, ‘oh, maybe it’s alright’.
That’s nice.

Is it? Obviously pop’s all about context and so on but wouldn’t you prefer the song to be enjoyed on its own merits?
No, it’s very kind of you.

Now, you’ve had a lot of radio support so far for this single.

I was looking on the Compare My Radio website to see what sort of support it’s been getting. In the last 30 days it’s had 1,367 plays on various radio stations in the UK.

Would you like to guess how many of those 1,367 plays – according to Compare My Radio – are from stations that aren’t owned by the same people as Capital?
(Extended laugh) How many?

(Laughs) Really? Which station was that?

Radio One.
Well at least we got one play on Radio One.

Explain this scenario please.
Well it goes without saying, doesn’t it? I’m a DJ on Capital, which is great, and they’re supporting one of their DJs. So that’s great.

And musically the song is bang on trend isn’t it. Is it the most cynical release of all time or a beautiful moment in the history of artistic endeavour?
OH I LOVE YOU. I mean when I DJ, if you were to come and watch me play tomorrow night at BCM in Mallorca, my DJ set consists of deep commercial house – your Gorgon Cities, your Route 94s, that sort of thing. And the sound of LuvBug sits naturally within that. It’s not really a cynical decision to follow a trend – it’s just me producing stuff that I like to play when I DJ.

So basically the trends have actually caught up with you! Finally! You were waiting all along for the world of music to catch up with you, and now here it is.
I prefer ‘the stars have aligned’. (Laughs)

That commercial deep house sound you’ve described is both credible and mainstream at the same time. And in a way Marvin that’s a bit like you. You’ve got your DJing on the radio which is quite cool. Three days later: you’re being Philip Schofield on ITV. You’re a popcultural chameleon.
Do you know what, Rochelle and I have always wanted to host a TV show together. That’s something we’ve always fancied. And This Morning has been an amazing opening. That show is something I grew up watching. And yes, Rochelle and I host some Fridays from time to time and it’s great experience of live TV. Hopefully it’ll one day open the door for us to host something else. We’d love to do that.

(The next bit is only ‘LOL’ if you bear in mind that this interview took place before The Saturdays ended their tour)

Has your good lady wife talked to you about how sad she’ll be when The Saturdays announce their split on the final date of their tour?

What’s she said about it though?
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! You know they’re not splitting up. There’s more still to come from them! I’m not bullshitting, there’s more to come!

Well that’s true, there’s the Christmas album they haven’t announced yet.
Everyone loves a Christmas album.

JLS never did one.
I think we should have, to be fair.

Why don’t you and your LuvBug pals do a deep house Christmas album? You could call it ‘Deep Grotto’.
Did you say ‘Deep Grotto’? Perfect!

Seriously though nobody else is going to be doing this, it’s a classic gap in the market. If you want some Radio One plays this is ideal: it’ll get to December, they’ll be wanting to play their deep house stuff but they’ll also be wanting to play Christmas songs. BAM.
What a great idea. I’ll make a note. (Sound of precisely no notes being made)

What do you actually do in LuvBug?
Well a typical day in the studio will be myself, JK and White N3rd, we’ll get together, we’ll open up a session, we’ll start producing some tracks… I don’t want to get too technical…

I’m following so far.
Then we’ll start bringing in various loops and things. We’ll work with other writers as well – we recently did a writing camp with MNEK and Becky Hill. We’ve also worked with the girl that writes a lot for Jess Glynne, one of the girls from All About She… We’ve worked with a lot of good people.


So this is an actual proper thing? Because to start off with it seemed like a bit of a vehicle.
Well of course people are going to be cynical about my next move – of course there will be preconceptions. Of course people will raise an eyebrow. But I’m really enjoying doing this and we kept it a secret for a long time because we didn’t want people to know I was involved. I mean most of the people who hear it on the radio still don’t know it’s me, and I’m not that fussed about that because it means the music’s speaking for itself. I’ve had a taste of the limelight with JLS. I’m in a good place.

Are you still in touch with the rest of JLS?
Yes! We’re genuinely friends. I was with Aston two nights ago, JB is about to have a baby and I messaged his wife a few days ago, Oritsé’s just had a baby and I spoke to him on the phone last week – we’re still very close. But ultimately we made a business decision. We knew that we’d been very successful and we never wanted to overstay our welcome. We didn’t want to be ‘that band’ that hung around when nobody wanted them. And we went out at the O2 Arena. For us it was a fitting end to a fantastic six years. And luckily, unlike a lot of bands, we remained friends.

Have you been to JB’s farm?
YES! I was there about a month ago. There’s a photo on Rochelle’s Instagram of me with Alaia-Mai because she’s fascinated by Peppa Pig and JB’s got about fifty pigs. She didn’t like the smell, but she liked the look of them.

Did you explain that pigs are not just there for decoration?
No, not yet. I will do one day.

Are the rest of the songs on the LuvBug album basically the same but with different people singing?
I’d say ‘Resonance’ is more on the chilled out side of the album – the rest has a bit more pace to it, it’s a bit more clubby. The sound will get a bit tougher and harder as we release more singles.

And a chart prediction for the single please?
YOU CAN’T ASK ME THAT! I’m going to be announcing the chart!

That’ll be tough won’t it. Even considering Capital’s Big Top 40 chart is basically made up, it’ll still be tough.
(Laughs) This is a genuine, no bullshit answer: I’ve had five Number One records with JLS and I’ve been very fortunate to be able to celebrate these things, but this is a real passion project for me. If we have a great charting single I’ll be over the moon.

You kept LuvBug quiet for 18 months. What are you keeping quiet at the moment that we’ll find out about a year and a half from now?
I’m doing enough at the minute, thanks very much!

‘Resonance’ is out now and here it is on iTunes. 

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Ella Henderson interview: “Energy saving lightbulbs are annoying” http://www.popjustice.com/interviewsandfeatures/ella-henderson-interview-energy-saving-lightbulbs-are-annoying/130417/ http://www.popjustice.com/interviewsandfeatures/ella-henderson-interview-energy-saving-lightbulbs-are-annoying/130417/#comments Wed, 08 Oct 2014 15:24:23 +0000 http://www.popjustice.com/?p=130417 “Energy saving lightbulbs are annoying.”

Ella B&W

The other day we went and had a bit of chinwag with Ella Henderson who just happens to have an album on the verge of coming out.

That song is called ‘Glow’. Remember that name, it will be useful later.

Here’s what happened during the chat.

Hello Ella. How many times a day do people ask you if you’re off down to the river to pray?
(Laughs) Not many people have asked me. But a lot of people have asked me if I have religious views and stuff. I think my answer to that is I do have a sense of spirituality and I do believe that there’s something there, though I never went to church often as a kid. But ‘Ghost’ is very much a metaphorical song. The word “ghost” represents something or someone that has a hold over you. So the metaphoric use of something that is powerful and strong like religion kind of takes you back a bit.

So to be clear on this, you’ve never gone down to the river to pray?
No. But I’ve walked along the Thames and had a think about things.

I think that is a 21st Century way of going to the river to pray.
Maybe it is…

As your album is called ‘Chapter One’ did you see The X Factor as the prologue?
I probably see all my life before this album as the prologue. My career, or its fundamental start, was at a very young age. I’ve always dedicated my life to music. But I guess ‘Chapter One’ is a representation of everything I’ve done for the past 16 years – the sources of getting everything together ready to head into that first chapter of everything.

Is your life an open book?
As a person I’m not an open book, but when it comes to my writing that is very much me letting go and letting my thoughts run wild. I’ll never go too far where I feel like I’m giving myself away completely. But I’ll go to point where it feels good to let it out, like therapy.

Album sales aren’t quite what they once were. With your album did you feel like you had to produce a record that was full of singles or were you able to make a ‘body of work’?
When it came to writing I didn’t ever go through the process of writing so it could be a single and have a video to go with it; I just wrote. Then when it came to picking the songs to go on the album I just went for the strongest ones that are single contenders.

Adam Levine said recently that Maroon 5’s last album was done so that every song could be a massive single. But I love albums when there are songs that could only be album tracks and are meant to be just that. It doesn’t mean they’re shit, they’re just not singles.
You can definitely sense the difference. I think it’s finding the right balance and figuring out what’s right for you. I mean when I think of a Michael Jackson album, every song is a hit record and they’re all on one album. But you can listen to an album and there are the songs that we all know and then there are those hidden treasure songs.

You’re credited with co-writing ‘Ghost’ with Ryan Tedder but if you had to pick between ‘Halo’, ‘Battlefield’, ‘Already Gone’ or ‘Bleeding Love’ which Tedder power ballad is your favourite?
(Makes noise like a screeching car brake) All of his songs are huge. I’d also be scared to say one. You know what it is? The clever thing with Ryan is that when you write with him it’s a song that’s moulded around you.

That sounds interesting, but you still haven’t picked a song…
I love ‘Bleeding Love’ and ‘Halo’. They’re the two big ones for me.

You now also have a non-Ryan Tedder new single, ‘Glow’. What colour is your aura?
What does that mean? Do different colours represent different things?

Well ‘Glow’ reminds me of oranges and yellows. Sunset vibes.

That’s handy as in the video for the song it’s building up to sunset. It also looks like your dancers are doing a sun dance thing. Is this true or false?
No! With the video I wanted to bring across something that felt like the people of the night. It’s almost like this illegal cult that you want to be a part of but you can’t be for some strange reason. But by the time you’ve listened to ‘Glow’ you become a part of it and you don’t know how you’ve become part of it but you’re part of it.

So ‘Glow’ is your cult initiation song?
Yeah, it’s about bringing people closer together. The track builds throughout, the drums get heavier, the beat drives on and the electronic production we based it on just gets bigger and bigger – that’s what I wanted it to represent. And when it came to the video… I mean most videos start in the morning and they go into this crazy dance party thing in the night. For me it’s so clichéd. I wanted to do the complete opposite and reverse it around so that the break of dawn is the peak moment.

What is your favourite part of daylight’s glow – the morning haze or the afternoon’s golden hour?
My favourite part of the day is just as it’s getting dark. I love watching the sun go down. If I can be anywhere to see a sunset I’d try and get there.

What’s your opinion on energy saving light bulbs?
At first energy saving lightbulbs are annoying because when you need to look for something you just need a light and you want the brightest light. But I would probably like them in my apartment. Luckily my bedroom has dimmer switches, and I always have it on the lowest point because I don’t really like bright light. I like to roam around, not like a bat or anything but in mood lighting. It sets a nice tone. I think they’re nice actually, and they save the planet so it’s a good thing.

Have you ever worn the perfume Glow by Jennifer Lopez?
I used to wear J-Lo’s Glow all the time when I was younger. Do you know what’s really weird? I’ve named two of my singles after perfume brands – one called ‘Ghost’ and one called ‘Glow’. I never really realised that.

If you could glow in the dark what would you get up to?
I would roam around in the night. I’d go somewhere where there are no streetlights, maybe somewhere in nature and only you were glowing. You’d get to see everything in your own way.

So very much like a bat then. Thanks Ella. Goodbye!

‘Glow’ is out now; you can pre-order Ella’s album here on iTunes and keep up with her over on Twitter.

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Meghan Trainor interview: “I didn’t realise the world would be calling me within five weeks” http://www.popjustice.com/interviewsandfeatures/meghan-trainor-interview/129943/ http://www.popjustice.com/interviewsandfeatures/meghan-trainor-interview/129943/#comments Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:21:11 +0000 http://www.popjustice.com/?p=129943 Hello Meghan! Where are you and what can you see?
I can see my bed, because I’m in it. I’m in Nashville. I can also see my cats.

How many animals do you have?
I just have two kittens: Cody and Mittens. Mittens has extra thumbs so he looks like he has mittens on. It’s a rare thing, and he’s Siamese so he looks awesome.

Do you think that in evolutionary terms opposable thumbs will prove to be a key stage in cats taking on human form?
I think that’s probably it. He could pick up stuff now.

You’re currently Number One, as you’re well aware, in Billboard’s Digital Songs chart. Which still counts as a Number One, especially as you’re on your way to Number One in the proper Billboard chart too.
Which is crazy!

It is. It’s always good talking to artists when they’re Number One because they’re in a strange but magical mental state. It’s like talking to someone when it’s Christmas Day but only for them. How has being Number One changed you as a human being?
Well I’m exactly the same, but I have more friends. My phone rings more nowadays, and I get a lot of texts that are like, ‘hey, I know we didn’t talk in high school, but I just wanna say I’m really proud’. It’s like, ‘okaaay…’.

What sort of person were you at high school?
Well I had an older brother who was popular, so I went in that group – he and I are only a year apart, so we’re very close. When we moved, and started at a new school, he made friends immediately so then I was like ‘hey! I’m his sister!’. And then I became ‘the singer girl’.

But presumably there was a point when you wanted to become known not for who you were, and you created your own identity.
Yeah, they called me ‘Trainor’s Sister’. I’d be like, ‘no, it’s Meghan!’. But when I got into music more and they hung out with me more they realised that I was ‘pretty cool’. (Laughs)

You signed your first deal – as a songwriter rather than as a performer – a few years ago, right?
It was just two years ago – I was 18.

It must be flattering to be signed purely on the strength of your songwriting.
Yeah. Just based on the songwriting – I was so happy that I didn’t have to go to college!

And you started getting cuts really quickly?
Well no… I suppose some people wait ten years to get a cut and I did get some in the first few years. It started off with some small stuff in Italy that nobody in America heard about. Then I got that Disney girl cut – Sabrina Carpenter. And then Rascal Flatts.


Did you write ‘All About That Bass’ with a view to someone else recording it?
I went [to the writing session] as a songwriter – I didn’t have a [record] deal, I never thought I’d have one – and I met this songwriter [Kevin Kadish], I was a fan of his. I knew the songs he’d written before. I wanted to show I him I was a cool writer! (Laughs) So I said, ‘man, let’s just write something that’s amazing and fun for the world – let’s not have an artist in mind’. Because if you have an artist in mind, then you’ve got rules – you can’t swear, you can’t talk about boys, whatever. He was like, ‘I’m down’.

And at what point during writing it did you think, ‘this one’s not going somewhere else – this is my song’?
I never really felt like that. I knew it was awesome but we both looked at each other and we were both, like, ‘nobody’s going to cut this. We won’t make any money from it, but that’s okay because it’s our awesome little song that we wrote’. And then for like half a year we pitched it to labels. We were just saying, ‘do you have any artists who could possibly do this, ever?’. And everyone was like, ‘no’. They were like, ‘you’ll have to re-produce it’. Because that’s the demo, what you hear. They were like, ‘re-produce it, make it more pop, there’s no Auto Tune’. It was floating forever. Then at one label, Epic, LA Reid heard it. The A&R  – who’s now my A&R! – was playing it in the office. LA Reid was like, ‘who’s that?’ ‘Some Nashville writer.’ ‘Go get her!’ (Laughs)

Bloody hell. And this song that’s sailing to Actual Number One in America is still just the demo?
Yeah! It’s the demo man! He kept the mix of it, which is insane! He just went, ‘master it and put it out!’ I literally only signed in February!

It is an extraordinary piece of music and one of the good things about it is that musically it is fairly sparse. Perhaps if you’d been intending to pitch it to Rihanna or someone it would have had a lot more going on in it, which could have killed the magic.
Or Beyoncé. She would have had a whole band in it and everything. But she is a size two.

When you were pitching it to people who actually turned it down?
It was labels, rather than artists turning it down. I know Beyoncé’s people did say they loved it. The best part now is that they’re all emailing me going, ‘I WANTED THAT SONG!’ I’m like, ‘are you kidding?’.

Do you have the second single lined up?
Yes – it’s called ‘Dear Future Husband’. It’s my lil’ list of things he should probably be aware of if he wants to marry me. (Laughs)

What does he need to know?
You need to take me on a date, bring me flowers every anniversary. Tell me I’m beautiful. Sometimes. If you wanna get the ‘special lovin’’. That’s in the chorus, actually.

Is ‘All About That Bass’ a novelty record?
I mean, I think it’s just a good song. It’s reacting like fire. It’s spreading faster and faster. I mean I knew a lot of girls would like it, but I didn’t realise the WORLD would be calling me within five weeks. There’s certainly some spark about it.

Most people will have first heard the music while also seeing the video. And even from the first line of the first verse – ‘it’s pretty clear, I ain’t no size two’ – it feels like it was written with the intention that it wouldn’t just be an audio hit, but a visual one too. Which is quite an interesting way to approach writing.
Yeah. Someone at my label was saying that it’s not just the song that’s spreading, it’s the video that’s making the song viral. It’s the whole thing put together. That’s so cool. Obviously that’s putting the pressure on me for my next video!

But it feels like it might happen more and more, now that video views count in the charts and can also be monetised. It feels like song and video will be treated as one item more and more. Almost to the point where buying an audio file is like buying the soundtrack to a film.
Yeah. And Instagram is everything! I got the same director, Fatima Robinson, for my next video – she also does all my live shows and she does Pharrell’s stuff. They got me the top dog! She’s the most wonderful person, I love her very much. She’s already like, ‘I know what the next video’s going to be like!’. I’m pumped.

You know how if you listen to music with too much bass, it sounds rubbish? Is there such a thing as too much bass?
Sure. I hate sitting in cars with subs, and they rattle your stomach and make you feel sick. I don’t like that. My brother got it in his car, I refused to get in the car with him. He just pumped too much bass.

There are two ‘controversial’ aspects to your single. The first is that a lot of people claim you’re criticising skinny people in a song that’s ostensibly about feeling good about your weight. 
Yeah. Oh God man, I don’t criticise skinny people! I would never shame a skinny person! I don’t know who would want to. I guess they stop listening immediately after I say ‘skinny bitches’ and just turn it off. But I say, ‘…just kidding, I know even you think you are fat’. For instance, I have skinny friends and some of them will stand in front of the mirror and go, ‘eugh, I’m just like so big’. And I’m standing there going, ‘JESUS! If you’re big then what am I!?’ That’s not right. So I was just saying that. There was a huge Twitter account that made a blog about ‘this is a body shaming song’. I was like, ‘oh my goodness, okaaay…’ I don’t get it. No, I would never shame a skinny person. It makes no sense.

The other point is that the lines about boys chasing bigger girls, your mum saying boys like more to hold at night and so on, raise the question about why feeling good about yourself should be seen in the context of what men think.
Yeah, I’ve got a lot of feminists tweeting me – ‘why have you got to talk about boys?’. I don’t know, man! I just wrote a fun song about loving your booty and loving your body! I never had a problem getting boys, I still got ‘em, I still had fun. I don’t know. My mom never actually said those words, she’s a very shy person.

So, more than anything, this song is actually factually inaccurate.
Yes. But my mom does tell me not to criticise myself – if I’d say, ‘I’m so fat’, she’d tell me not to be silly and that I was beautiful.


Will it be hard for you to get sponsorship deals with clothing companies? Given that you are saying it’s okay for people to take a larger size, meaning that fewer size small garments will be sold, therefore meaning that more material will be used, thus raising the cost of producing the average garment and forcing down profits?
(Bemused noise) I haven’t even thought that far ahead! Actually that was one of the first things that came: clothing stores were, like, ‘can we dress you?’ And my management is working out merchandise deals at the moment. But I don’t know that far, it’s only been five weeks! By the way have you got a title for my album? I need it like today.

Yeah. I need to figure it out. I was supposed to have it yesterday but I didn’t, because I panicked.

So the second single is ‘Dear Future Husband’, right?
Well I’ve got an EP that’s coming out, and on it I have a song called ‘Title’. It’s basically about ‘call me your girlfriend, I’m sick of being your boo thing, so call me your girlfriend and give me that title’. So I’ve called the EP ‘Title’. Cos obviously everyone was going, ‘what’s the title’, and I was like, ‘hey, I’m clever, I’m gonna make it this’.

But as for the album, if the second single’s the wedding one then maybe ‘I Do’ would be quite a good title.
Oh, that’s nice. [SHE SOUNDS COMPLETELY UNIMPRESSED] Do you know the song ‘Take The A Train’?

You don’t? How OLD are you?

Older than you.
Oh. Well it’s an old jazz song. A huge one. My nickname is M-N-Train. They were thinking ‘Take The M Train’. But I was like, does that sound like a sexual thing?

Have you been through the whole Personal Trainor, Trainor Bra selection of options?
(Laughs) Yeah! My fans, they wanted to be called Trainors. I was like, no, that’s not going to work.

But instead they’re called Megatrons which is pretty good. 
Yeah, my friend came up with that for me. But then she told me yesterday that I can’t make t-shirts with it on because the Transformers people will come and sue me. So I’ll have to fix that ASAP!

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…with GRL.


GRL – basically Pussycat Dolls V2 but without the screamingly obvious frontwoman – have now been involved in two amazing singles in a row.

They are Pitbull’s ‘Wild Wild Love’ and their own Dr Luke-produced, Ester Dean co-penned ‘Ugly Heart’. Basically Lauren, Paula, Simone, Natasha and Emmalyn – for it is they –  know how to deliver a gargantuan chorus and sometimes that’s all you need in life.

On a recent press trip to the UK, their PR asked if we’d like to have a chat with them and we said ‘yes please, can we ask them 100 questions that demand 100 answers?’ and before they had a chance to say no we’d got them all on the phone.

Here’s what happened.



Where’s the strangest place you’ve ever put your hand?
Down the garbage disposal.

The title of your autobiography would be…

Do you think you have a higher or lower than average IQ?

Have you ever seen a ghost?

Ellen or Oprah?

Do you believe in aliens?
I’m not sure.

What is your favourite chocolate bar?
Time Out.

Which animal would you gladly never encounter in your lifetime?
A great white shark.

Who is your best friend?
My dad.

What’s the first thing you do when you wake up?
Go for a wee.

Who do you think has a perfect face?
Perfect face? I don’t think there is a perfect face. Everyone is special in their own way.

Are you in love?

Could you write Britney Spears a hit single?
I’d like to think so.

How do you feel about flip-flops?
I’m down for flip-flops.

Can you speak another language?
No. I’m trying to learn French but I keep forgetting things.

What did you have for breakfast?
I had sausages.

When did you last take a selfie?
I think it was yesterday.

What do you order in Starbucks?
A Soy Vanilla Latte.

How many pints can you drink before you fall over?
It depends if it’s English beer or American beer. American beer’s a little easier. English beer though, probably just one.

What would you like for dinner tonight?
I’d like some soup (laughs). I just really want some soup! I’m feeling a bit under the weather.



Where is your favourite place to be on a Sunday?
The beach.

How old is too old for a man to go skateboarding?

What’s the strangest thing you’ve ever put in your mouth?
My fist.

Does it freak you out that parrots can talk?
Does it freak me out? No, not at all. It’s not weird, it’s cool.

What colour are your pillows?

What was your worst subject at school?

Who should be dropped by their record label tomorrow?
Oh. That’s a mean question. Nobody!

What side of the bed do you sleep on?
I sleep in the middle.

X Factor or The Voice?
The Voice.

Sea or swimming pool?

What’s your favourite musical note?
My favourite musical note? I’ll say C.

Surf or turf?

What’s your most over used emoji?
The red heart emoji.

Do you ever feel like a plastic bag?
No I don’t, no.

How many hours sleep do you need in order to function properly?
At least eight hours.

Are you left or right handed?
Right handed.

How often do you get your haircut?
Maybe once every two months.

Has Auto Tune ever been applied to one of your records?
I think so.

What’s your least favourite smell?

What is the rudest word you know?



Have you got any tattoos?

Do you get bored easily?

If you could force two popstars to mate who would you choose?
Gwen Stefani and Kurt Cobain.

Did you expect the Lady Gaga album to do better or worse than it did?

Have you ever undergone major surgery?

If you were to sell every photo on your phone, how much would you get from TMZ?
A billion dollars.

What’s the best day of the week?

At what age were you happiest?

Double denim – amazing or awful?

Bath or shower?
Shower. Oh wait, no bath. Shower!

Diet or full fat Coke?
Full fat Coke.

Are you good in a fight?
I like to think so.

Can you ride a bike?

What word do people incorrectly use to describe GRL?

What word do people correctly use to describe GRL?

What does Pitbull smell like?
Pitbull smells like a mixture of heaven and earth.

What is the most expensive thing you have ever bought?
I brought Dolce & Gabbana heels and they were $1500 or something. I don’t want to talk about it.

What is your favourite fruit?
I love pineapple.

Would you rather not eat or not speak for 24 hours?
Not speak.

What is your least favourite TV show?
Least favourite? I’m a TV junkie. My favourite is Game Of The Thrones. My least favourite is probably American Dad.



What was the last thing you read about yourself on the Internet?
That I dress sexy.

What’s wrong with pop?
Absolutely nothing!

What’s right with pop?
Absolutely everything!

Would you rather have no teeth or no hair?
No hair. Like Paula, because she’s beautiful.

Why do we have dreams?
So that we can work to achieve them.

Commercial success or critical acclaim?
Critical acclaim.

When was the last time you wet yourself?
In public? When I was four I wet myself on stage during a performance. I told them I had to use the potty and they were like ‘no, you have to stand in line’ and then when we got onstage I was like ‘you know what, I’m going to do it anyway’.

Fried, boiled, poached or scrambled?
I don’t like eggs, but I guess fried.

What was the last film you watched and enjoyed?
American Beauty. I re-watched it on the plane coming over here.

Dogs or cats?

Can you swim backstroke?

What are the names of the people you live with?

What do you have on your bedroom walls?
I have two Mark Ryden paintings and I have a California girl and a Valley girl carved in a wooden plaque.

Do you pair up your socks before you put them away?
I definitely pair up my socks before I put them away.

Have you ever fallen off a ledge?
I’ve fallen off a tiny ledge but not a tall one. Thankfully.

Are there too many mountains in the world?
Too many? No.

What year will it all end?
Hopefully never.

How fast is too fast?
You can’t go fast enough unless you’re driving a car, in which case I’d like a slow and steady pace.

Comics or cartoons?

Biscuit or cake?



What do you say to people who think pop is just for teenage girls?
I say, er, pop is the best!

Which supermarket do you shop in?
Trader Joe’s.

Christmas or birthday?
Oh that’s so hard! Christmas.

Which reality TV show do you most want to go on?
My guilty pleasure is Love and Hip-Hop.

Town or country?

Three words that best describe you in the morning are…
Zen. I like to burn incense. Clean, because I like to clean in the mornings. And, er, happy!

Do you iron your underwear?

What is the name of the first person you kissed?
I don’t actually remember.

Why does love always feel like a battlefield?
Love does not always feel like a battlefield! Lauren is behind me singing the song now though. But no, love is like a box of chocolates.

What was your worst injury ever?
My appendicitis. That was the worst.

How much money have you got on you?
A few pounds.

What’s the worst Pussycat Dolls song?
The worst? I can’t answer that.

Are you good at jigsaw puzzles?

Which member will be the first to leave One Direction?

Twitter or Instagram?

If you were twice as talented would you sell twice as many records?
Not necessarily.

What percentage do you tip in a restaurant?

Have you ever been arrested?
In our music video. Not in real life though.

Can you parallel park?
Yes, I’m really good at it.

What could you do to get played on the radio more?
We could start a Twitter beef. We should try that.

‘Ugly Heart’ is out on August 24 but you can of course listen to it here right now.

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Behold! An exclusive comeback chat with Hilary Duff


So, yesterday we had a chat with Hilary Duff. After several years in the semiwilderness she’s signed to RCA, knocked together a new album and is on the verge of re-entering the ‘pop milieu’.

During the course of our telephone conversation she talked about why the time is right to get back in the pop saddle, her vision for the new album, how she might leak the songs that didn’t make the cut and why she chose the ones that did. She also acknowledged that while the whole ‘staging a comeback’ thing might not be easy, she’s going to give it a good old go. (Oh, and she wouldn’t mind recording ‘Boom Clap’ after all, thanks very much.)  

Here’s how it unfolded.

Hello Hilary. You’re back!
I’m back! (Laughs) Yes.

Let’s begin. Is this a comeback that’s principally based in nostalgia or in something brand new?
I think it’s a combination of both. I definitely have a little place in people’s hearts from the past, but also I think they’re interested to see what I’ve come up with and who I am now. I want to believe that. I don’t think people are so fickle that they only want to see me because I’m Lizzy McGuire or something.

Who, in 2014, do you think is a Hilary Duff fan?
I think it’s a pretty broad range. It’s amazing with the internet now, how you can pinpoint who your target audience is. I think a lot of them are my age because they grew up with me and maybe a little bit older because of them wanting to see what I’m wearing all the time or young mums who have kids the same age as my kid. I think it’s also 14-to-18-year-olds still.

What sort of hair do they have?
What sort of hair?

Erm, I think they’re fashionable girls who try to look fashionably dishevelled. Like me, I never want my hair to be perfect, I want it to be a little fucked up. I want to wear boots with tight jeans and a t-shirt that looks really old but is probably quite expensive. I’m a flea market digger. Sometimes I manage to pull it together and be like ‘I look cute today’ and then other times I’m a hot mess with a two-year-old. He’s in this whole thing where he doesn’t want me to put my hair in a ponytail.

Does he like the new songs?
Yes he loves them, it’s really cute. I’ve been away from him for two days, and his dad took him camping to have a little boys trip, and I was talking to him on the phone last night and he doesn’t like talking on the phone unless he thinks he’s talking to Elmo, but I started singing to him and he said ‘more, more’ and it really made my heart hurt a little bit.

What was it about the single ‘Chasing The Sun’, among all the other piles of amazing songs you probably heard, that made it seem like the right first single?
Honestly it was a really tough choice. I think it was a close tie between ‘All About You’, ‘Chasing The Sun’ and ‘Tattoo’ probably. It’s a really carefree, summer song and I guess I didn’t really know what people were expecting from me. This song is definitely a top-down [we imagine she means cars not garments], carefree, super catchy singalong song and so I guess we thought that would be a good move.

Most singers these days find it important to stamp their name all over a song, but you haven’t written on this one. Have you still found a way to make it personal?
I’m not a snob, like ‘I have to write everything’. There are so many amazing writers out there and one of the best things about this record for me was that I did get to write as much as I wanted and work with other people as much as I wanted. Some of the best work comes from when you’re collaborating with people and then sometimes a song comes along and you hear it and you’re like ‘okay, I think that’s a smash, don’t give it away!’.There has to be a balance. Some of the biggest pop acts out there love to write, but a lot of their singles aren’t things they’ve written.

The big ‘Hilary’s back’ press release says that you arrived at your new label RCA “with a vision for the album”. What was that vision Hilary?
When I first started recording, the album was a lot heavier. It was a lot more serious. I started to steer away from that because as part of my personality, I do like to have fun and I do like to live as carefree and big as possible and do things that make me happy and be a positive person. So the album took on those kinds of legs and I got inspired by some of the folkier-type music (!). I love Mumford & Sons and I love The Lumineers. It’s definitely a straightforward pop album but with a bit of that influence in there. When I came to the label I just kept saying ‘I want it to feel a little earthy and authentic’ because I’m from Texas, and they were like ‘earthy? What does that mean?’. But that’s the best way I can describe it. It’s definitely pop – I wanted to have those melodies that get stuck in your head – but also have some foot-stomping and claps that bring me back to my roots.

Is there any EDM on there?
No, it’s all gone! (Laughs) Even though that’s where I started. A few songs I came up with were really cool and you kind of get heartbroken when you realise no one’s ever going to hear them and they’re going to be trashed.

(Laughs) You know what, that’s not a bad idea. After the album’s at the end of its cycle that would be cool to let the fans see a different side, but it wasn’t the push that I wanted to have out there.

Another press release claim: “The album is a great representation of the experiences I’ve had in my life and where I want to go from here!” What experiences are you talking about and where are you going?
Oh gosh. Let me think about some of the songs…

But were there experiences you’d had that you definitely wanted to be represented on the album?
I’d taken such a long break. It wasn’t like I was totally gone – I was doing a little bit of acting here and there, and if you’re living in LA it’s kind of hard to hide so my life was definitely still on display. It’s not like people haven’t seen me in seven years, I just wasn’t interested in doing music. I had a lot of time to grow and become the person I want to be and not be exhausted with work and on tour. I got to remodel a house, which was amazing, and I met my husband. I got married, I had a baby, I travelled all over the world. A lot of it was really hard. I shut down a business [Lizzy McGuire] that was making a tonne of money and everyone thought I was crazy at the time, you know. That was a tough challenge for me at a young age to decide to do that and be like ‘I need a break and I need to hang on to my sanity’. That was a really scary thing to do. I learned a lot about my strength and fighting for what I needed and there’s some of that on the record. Obviously I’ve had a little bit of heartbreak and troubles in my relationships, so there’s some of that on there too, plus, even though I’m a mum, I like to let loose and get a little wild sometimes.

Do you think artists are right to view pop as a job for life, or do you think increasingly it has to just be one of various things you do, and perhaps only for a certain period?
I guess everyone’s different but for me, I had toured for five or six years pretty much in a row and then when I wasn’t touring I was squeezing in filming a movie and I just got to a point… Well, I love my fans and I’ve loved all the travelling and being on stage, there is no bigger reward to have that feeling of people who don’t even speak the same language as you screaming the words of your songs back to you, it’s so ridiculously rewarding. But it is isolating and it was lonely and once I had turned twenty I was like, ‘I’m going to go crazy’. I needed to learn what I liked and who I was and make normal people decisions, not these epic and crazy [ones]. There was a lot of pressure. I was also struggling in my acting career and trying to get people to see me in a different way. There are lots of routes you can take to try and convince people you’re not the same as you were and I think my choice was to take a step back from everything and then just deal with the consequences of that fact that I might never get it all back again. But I’m going to try damn hard!

You touched on it there but obviously there’s a lot of chatter about how the transition from Disney product to proper popstar makes it difficult to stay normal and not go a bit crazy…
For a while there I was so busy I didn’t have time to get in trouble. I think I was just ready to experience a lot of things. I’m not saying I was perfect – I managed to find a little bit of trouble, you know, just normal things for my age. I was just a bit more private about it. I was ready to live my life and not be blasted on the cover of Star magazine, you know, all of that shit.

This is your fifth studio album. You’ve made some great singles but not a classic album yet. Is this one it?
Well to date this is definitely my favourite album but who’s to say  what’s a classic? Hopefully my fans will think that it is and I think that it is. The thing that has always drawn my fans to me is that I am authentic and I am reachable to them and I am honest. I’ve done everything I can to accomplish that on this record and it’s taken me a long time – I started in September and I’m here now.

You’re also going to be doing some more acting in a TV show called Younger. How committed are you to pop? Won’t the TV stuff get in the way?
I mean, [music] is definitely my focus right now. When I start shooting it’s from September to December, so my record should be finished by then and I think we’re talking about a fall [she means autumn] release, so I’ll be around to do press and then when the show wraps on December 12 I’ll be doing a full press push for the record and I just have to commit myself to that.

Then you can put your feet up for Christmas!
I’ve been in hibernation for seven years so I’ve got a lot of energy! I’m an all or nothing kind of girl – I need my plate to be either completely empty or completely full.

You’ve shifted 15m records worldwide. Do you think you’ll sell another 15m?
HELL YEAH! Of course. I think you have to believe it and be confident in anything you want. So of course I believe that. It might take a few years, but I think I’ll do it again.

‘So Yesterday’ is probably one of the greatest songs of all time isn’t it?
Oh wow, that’s a big compliment, thank you.

What do you remember about recording it?
I remember not wanting to record it or have it on my album and my manager was like ‘no, you’re recording this one’.

Oh. Why didn’t you like it?
I don’t know. You know what’s funny is that my mum is a major Cher fan – I’m actually a huge Cher fan too – and she [Cher, not Hilary's mum] just played the Staples centre in LA and I surprised my mum and got tickets to see her like tenth farewell tour. (Laughs) It was amazing and I just love her. Before she performed one of everyone’s favourite songs, ‘Just Like Jesse James’, she told this whole story about how she didn’t like the song and her manager made her do it and it was kind of the same thing with ‘So Yesterday’. The Matrix were really hot at the time and they had done a lot of work on one of Avril Lavigne’s records, and I was a big Avril fan so I was excited about working with them, but I was just not into ‘So Yesterday’. I ended up just sucking it up and recording it and it turned out amazing.

Did you see that Cher also didn’t like ‘If I Could Turn Back Time’ and Diane Warren had to physically restrain her in the studio to get her to record it?
That’s so crazy to me. Some people are touched by certain things and some people aren’t, but that’s what I mean about recording music that I haven’t written on – there are so many talented people out there so if you get a chance to work on a song and make it your own then you should. And ‘Chasing The Sun’ is such a relatable song and it’s close to something I would have written for myself.

Presumably what you’ve learned over the years is when to fight for a song and when to trust other people.
Yeah of course. Even when I was working for Disney and I didn’t get to write and I was working with certain people if there were songs I didn’t like they wouldn’t make me do it, but they did have a heavier influence on what the records would sound like in compared to what my tastes were at the time. But now the tables have turned and the fans want to be so connected to the artist and if you’re singing something that isn’t authentic then they’re going to smell it on you.

Finally: why did you turn down ‘Boom Clap’?
I didn’t know that I had an option to have it. It’s my favourite song on the radio right now. I remember there was talk about my label trying to get us to write together and it was in New York and I was flying home so I didn’t have time to have a session with her. I am literally obsessed with that song and I didn’t know that it was an option for me.

Do you think it would have worked as a Hilary Duff song?
Yes I do. If she wants to give it to me now I’ll still take it!

‘Chasing The Sun’ is out in the autumn. You can keep up with Hilary over on Facebook.

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…with Nicole Scherzinger.


Here are some facts about Nicole Scherzinger. She has nice hair, a lovely singing voice and, when the mood takes her, she can bash off an amazing song like nobody’s business.

The mood has obviously been taking her of late because her current single ‘Your Love’ is a thing of pure wonder built around a wordless chorus that miraculously still doesn’t grate after the fiftieth listen.

To celebrate (take advantage of promo time relating to) Nicole’s new single we asked her 100 questions that were in urgent need of 100 answers.

Here’s what happened.

Where’s the strangest place you’ve ever put your hand?
I’m sorry? Where’s the strangest place I’ve put my HAND? (Thinks for ages) Simon Cowell’s cheeks. On his face.

The title of your autobiography would be…
Nicole The Great? (Thinks) No. Balls To The Wall.

Is it time for people to stop wearing stripes?


Have you ever seen a ghost?


Ellen or Oprah?

Did you go anywhere nice on your holidays?

Yes! Always.

What is your favourite chocolate bar?

Picnic. So good.

Which animal would you gladly never encounter in your lifetime?
Are there any animals that fart or are smelly? Eels.

Who is your best friend?
I’ve got a bunch of best friends. I’ll say my sister.

What’s the first thing you do when you wake up?
I put eye drops in my eyes.

Who do you think has a perfect face?


Are you in love?

Could you write Britney Spears a hit single?
(Emphatically) Yes!

What’s the strangest thing you’ve ever put in your mouth?

The strangest thing I’ve ever put in my mouth? Oh my God… Blowfish semen. It’s a delicacy in Tokyo! Don’t do it when you’re drunk man.

Do you worry about your weight?

Yes and no.

What did you have for breakfast?
Eggs and avocado and toast and custard croissant.

When did you last take a ‘selfie’?
Yesterday on a double-decker bus because I’d never been on one and I was super stoked.

What does Simon Cowell smell like?

How many pints can you drink before you fall over?

Endless. No I don’t drink that many pints.

What would you like for dinner tonight?
I’d love a truffle pasta but that’s not going to happen.

Where is your favourite place to be on a Sunday?

How old is too old for a man to go skateboarding?

Never too old.

How do you feel about flip-flops?

Live for them. I’m Hawaiian. I live for flip-flops.

Which member of your family is the worst cook?
No answer, everyone’s a good cook in my family.

What colour are your pillows?
Soft creme.

What was your worst subject at school?

In college I got an F or an X in Economics once because I couldn’t stand the teacher so I went back to show off and got an A+.

What is the worst day of the week?
Oh fart, well Taco Tuesdays is pretty cool but Mondays aren’t that great.

Which side of the bed do you sleep on?
The right.

X Factor or The Voice?
X Factor.

Sea or swimming pool?


What’s your favourite cereal?
Special K.

Surf or turf?

What’s your favourite breed of dog?
English Bulldog.

Do you ever feel like a plastic bag?

A plastic bag? What’s that? [Is regaled with a bit of Katy Perry's 'Firework'] No. I’ve felt many things but I don’t know if I’ve ever felt like a plastic bag.

How many hours’ sleep do you need in order to function properly?
One or none. I don’t need to.

Are you left or right handed?

I’m right handed.

How often do you get your haircut?

Like never. Until somebody’s like ‘your hair’s looking really scraggly’.

What’s the best freebie you’ve ever been given?

I love it when I’m given diamonds.

What’s the hardest word to spell?

What is the rudest word you know?

The c-word. [She means cunt]

Have you got any tattoos?

Are you bored of these questions yet?


If you could force two popstars to mate who would you choose?

Prince and Whitney Houston. Or, like, Michael Jackson and Whitney.

Did you expect the Lady Gaga album to do better or worse than it did?

I don’t know how it did. But I would only wish her the best.

New York, London, Paris or Munich?

Right now, London.

What does TMZ mean to you?


What’s the best day of the week?

Saturday even though I’m usually working. Actually Sunday.

At what age were you happiest?

Oh fart. I’ll say, now.

Double denim – amazing or awful?

I know it’s fashionable but I’m a bit scared. It could be amazing or it could be awful.

What’s wrong with pop?

That it doesn’t always think outside of the box.

What’s right with pop?
It’s what we thrive off of. It’s what’s infectious.

Are you good in a fight?

Can you ride a bike?


What word do people incorrectly use to describe you?


What word do people correctly use to describe you?

Sweet. Or compassionate. Or goofy and funny.

What is your favourite flavour of yoghurt?

Anything Müller!

What is the most expensive thing you have ever bought?
My house.

What is your favourite fruit?


Would you rather not eat or not speak for 24 hours?

Not speak.

What is your least favourite TV show?

I don’t watch TV.

What was the last thing you read about yourself on the internet?

Oh shit what did I read? I think you guys. You wrote about it being a strong song to come back with.

Bath or shower?


Diet or full fat Coke?

Full fat.

Would you rather have no teeth or no hair?
That’s horrible. I guess no teeth.

Why do we have dreams?
To live in our subconscious minds.

Commercial success or critical acclaim?

Critical acclaim.

When was the last time you wet yourself?

Oh my gosh. When I was laughing really hard.

Fried, boiled, poached or scrambled?

I like the six minutes eggs, whatever those are. Boiled.

What was the last film you watched and enjoyed?
That movie… Fart. What’s that movie? Think Like A Man Too.

Dogs or cats?

Rock or roll?

Rock and roll. No, I’ll say rock.

What are the names of the people you live with?

My cousins are staying with me, but they don’t pay rent.

What do you have on your bedroom walls?

French tapestry.

Do you pair up your socks before you put them away?


Do you iron your underwear?


What did you do yesterday?

I worked all day doing promo then I practiced acoustic and then I practiced dance and then I went to see Dionne Warwick perform at the Arts Club.

Christmas or birthday?


Town or country?


Comics or cartoons?


Biscuit or cake?


What do you say to people who think pop is for teenage girls?
Oh that’s foolish – look at Michael Jackson, he’s the King Of Pop.

Which supermarket do you shop in?

Crystal Farms.

Where do you buy your pants?


Which reality TV show do you most want to go on?

I don’t watch TV but I’m going to create a show called The Ass Factor and I’m going to go on that. I’m joking.

How fast is too fast?

Never go too fast.

Three words that best describe you in the morning are…

Oh god, in the morning… A Hot Mess. (Thinks) No. Fresh Hot Mess.

Have you ever fallen off a ledge?


What is the name of the first person you kissed?

You must be bored of these questions now?


What was your worst ever injury?

I haven’t had a lot of injuries but I was burnt as a child and have a big scar on my hand because of it. I was also burnt on my face and my Grandmother put this Hawaiian plant on it and it healed.

How much money have you got on you?


What’s the worst Pussycat Dolls song?
Doesn’t exist.

Are you a fan of Soduku?
Oh yeah, I like those.

Which member will be the first to leave One Direction?
Harry. Even though [HERE COMES A MASSIVE CLANG] when I put the group together, Liam was hesitant about it because he wanted to go solo.

Twitter or Instagram?

If you were twice as talented would you sell twice as many records?

No, I still wouldn’t because that’s not how the industry is, dammit!

What percentage do you tip in a restaurant?

20% always, or more.

Would you like to do some more acting?

What could you do to get played on the radio more?

I can’t even say that. No, just be great!

Can you parallel park?
Like a hot crazy bitch.

‘Your Love’ is out RIGHT NOW!

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Charli XCX feels like she might do something magical this year.
It’s June and she’s already made
two albums.
So what comes next?



Interview by Peter Robinson
Published on June 26, 2014

Without wishing to sound too dramatic about the whole thing, Charli XCX might be the perfect modern pop entity.

She sounds like a popstar, she thinks like a popstar, she looks like a popstar. She even writes like a popstar, and not the sort of popstar who turns up near the end of a writing session and throws in a couple of ‘baby’s.

During the course of what follows you will hear Charli talking about various things. The punk album she recorded and ditched, the new album she’s nearly finished, the Britney song that nearly happened, and what lies ahead for pop. You will also bear witness to a trick question so disgraceful that it could set back the public’s view of journalism more effectively than a million Leveson inquiries.

There will also be talk of ‘Boom Clap’, a forthcoming single so amazing that we’re going to plug it at the start of the interview (PRE-ORDER ON iTUNES) as well as the end.

Hello Charli! What are you doing at the moment?
I’m rehearsing for Glastonbury, and I’ve been having a meeting.

What was the meeting about?
Lots of things. Lots of things I can’t tell you. But it’s good. It’s all good shit.

Was it a meeting about big important stuff, or just people banging on about social media stats and that sort of bollocks?
Oh no I don’t go to those fucking meetings, they’re stupid. It was a big important meeting about big important things that are great.

Who was it with?
OH MY GOD STOP. I’m not telling you anything about it. But it’s great.

Was it about your career or somebody else’s?
A bit of both! But that’s all you’re going to get out of me, so calm down.

That’s a classic Charli XCX sort of meeting isn’t it – a bit of your career, a bit of somebody else’s.
Yes exactly.

Do you not think other people haven’t already benefitted quite enough from your hard work?
(Laughs) Well I mean I enjoy it! I think I’ll always keep writing for other people, if that’s what you’re talking about specifically. I have millions of songs that I’m never going to sing but someone else could sing a lot better than I could, so I’d rather give them to other people than have them sitting in my brain, festering away.

You say you have millions of songs. What’s a more realistic number?
Probably about 500.

Fucking hell!
Yeah! I write – since ‘I Love It’ blew up – every day. Every single day. And I’ve been in LA on and off for the past three months and sometimes I’ll do two to three sessions in a day. I feel quite creative right now. I feel like I’m kind of doing something right at the moment.

And this coincides with your profile perhaps opening doors now that weren’t open a year ago, but are you going hell for leather because you’ve never hit this creative streak before, or because you’re worried it’s going to end, you’ll never hit it again and you think you’ve only got another three months before you burn out?
I’ve always been on a creative streak! My songs have always been amazing. But now it’s just like people want to listen to them because I wrote a couple of big songs. I’m excited by the people who are contacting me at the moment. I don’t think I’ll burn out – the only problem is that because I’ve been in the studio so much I haven’t done as many things. I haven’t gone out and… Well, I have partied, but not loads. So I feel like I need to do that then go back into the studio and write about it.

So realistically, can you go out, get completely smashed and put it through as a legitimate business expense?
I’d never thought about that but you’ve just given me the best idea. Life itself is a business expense when you do this kind of thing. So yes, I’ll try that.

When you’re writing, do you always start off writing songs for yourself, or do you specifically set out to write for other artists? Some writers find the latter more liberating because they’re not constrained by the question of ‘would I stand on a stage and sing this’.
When I’m going into a session for an artist I’ll think about that artist, but I never write a song that I don’t think is cool. I feel like people ask me to come to sessions because they like what I do and they like my style, so I won’t then change it once I’m in the room. If I don’t think it’s cool it’s not going to end up on the record. I like having my stamp on things – I don’t just want to make generic music that’s not recognisable as something that’s come from my brain.

How finished is your album? Wasn’t it supposed to be out last month?
(Laughs) Well, yes. Shit changed.

What shit specifically?
Everything! I was making a punk album! I was over the music industry, I was over all of it. And I went to Sweden and made a punk album. And I think you tweeted something about “oh God it’s noise” or whatever and I was like well OBVIOUSLY you’d say that.

The track on SoundCloud was a bloody racket though to be fair. Although, yes it did have a ring of ‘here’s someone who’s a bit sick of what’s happening’.  Which is a valid artistic statement obviously but that doesn’t mean you have to release it.
(Laughs) Well yes, I mean I made a record that was like that. There were still elements of pop, but… And pop still is the general vibe. It’s [she's talking about the proper new album now] pop. I’ve made a pop record. I think it’ll be completely finished by the end of July, I’m not doing any more writing sessions now.

Are all the tracks on this new album fresh songs from this year?

So basically you’ve made two albums this year and it’s not even July?
Well yeah. And I still want to put out all the stuff I did in Sweden. That is going to happen at a later point.

You don’t sound very excited by that.

Maybe it’s something for the anthology box set in fifteen years. 
Maybe I’ll take your advice on that, although I probably won’t. I mean I’ve probably written five albums this year, really, if you count all the songs I’ve written. But yes, it’s done. It’s definitely a step away from ‘True Romance’, that’s for sure – it’s less electronic, and it’s more live. And I suppose yeah it is punk, but it’s not pop-punk in an Avril Lavigne kind of way. It’s not that. But it’s awesome. I feel like every song could be a hit.

Do you think about hit potential when you’re writing? Of that catalogue of 500 songs you have, how many are million-dollar megahits?
Probably only like 35.

That’s not bad to be getting on with. 
For a minute it was really hard for me not to be thinking about ‘hits’. Because that was the word that was brought up in my life every day.

Because once you’ve actually had a hit, people expect more. 
Yeah, after ‘I Love It’ and then ‘Fancy’ everyone was talking about HITS. ‘Keep the hits for yourself’, ‘don’t go into writing sessions because the label will be angry if you give hits away’, all that kind of thing. And after a while it all got a bit, like, ‘you know what, fuck off’. It was stupid. I’ve always done this my own way. I’ve passed up on many a thing that could have made me a big artist or something. Like I was offered a feature on a Christina Aguilera song and I turned it down. It just wasn’t right. She’s cool, but it just wasn’t right. And now I feel like I’m kind of ready to do that: I understand what the world is about a bit more. I’m in a very lucky position now – I feel like I’ve grown up through this so I understand most of the bad things about the music industry now. And I feel like there are people I can trust, and also people I can boss around very easily now, which is cool.

When you say you know what the world’s about, what do you mean?
Well I mean specifically the weird, small part of the world that I’m in. Who’s a good person, who’s a bad person, when something’s real, when I feel like I’m uncomfortable with something… I understand that a lot more now. When I was writing ‘True Romance’, even though I was in very good hands and really trusted Ariel and I love him, I was still figuring everything out. I didn’t really understand how vital my voice was. I think people can tell, even from the difference between ‘True Romance’ and ‘Fancy’ and ‘I Love It’, just how much more confident I am in my own voice. ‘Fancy’ and ‘I Love It’ feel like 100% me.

What percentage you was ‘True Romance’?
When I was making ‘True Romance’ I was really worried about being cool. As most 16-to-18-year-olds are. Whereas now I don’t care about being cool because now I’m cool anyway. In a really weird nerdy uncool way. I don’t care. I’m really into this record I’ve made because I feel like it’s all me.

Who have you worked with on the new album?
So – the list! Weezer, Rostam from Vampire Weekend, Stargate, John Hill… I did a session with [Dr] Luke but that wasn’t for me.

Who was that for?
I can’t tell you! I can’t tell you any secrets, that’s not how it works! You can guess.

Katy Perry?
No. And that’s it, you only get one guess because I’m not very good at lying and you’ll break me down! But yes, there are a lot of people on the album. When I started working with Stargate I was worried because when I was growing up there was always a stigma attached to those producers and I was still in my (adopts absurd posh voice) ‘I USED TO GO TO ART RAVES!’ phase. But actually I feel very connected with those people: they really understand music, and they really understand how to get the best out of me. I really trust them. We’re writing amazing songs together and I feel like they really want my voice to come out. I never thought I’d be on their side, but I kind of am.

Was it a question of confidence? Is it easier to feel you’re part of that world when you can look them eye to eye as someone who’s also had a big hit?
I guess when you have that success with a hit single people are always like ‘oh I always loved your early stuff’ but with them it felt like they knew what was up – they knew that maybe I didn’t fully get the credit I deserved for that song ['I Love It'], and they wanted me to get that credit. (Pause) Also I’m published by them which was handy. (Laughs) But I think I’ve kind of done things the long way round, and they’re like, ‘it’s your time’. And I think it’s my time now as well. I think I’ve paid my dues. And there are lot of people I want to give a ‘fuck you’ to.

It’s exciting having seen you when you were 14 and all over the place, and not really seeming like the sort of person who could have hits, and then having seen it all gradually change over a pretty long period. 
Now here I am.

Do you like ‘Boom Clap’?
I do.

You know how sometimes people release singles because they sort of have to due to them being on a soundtrack or something, then a year or so later they go ‘this was shit all along’? Anyway I suppose the point I was leading to was to ask if it’s in any way indicative of what will be on the album.
It’s definitely on the soft side, for sure. But it’s definitely part of the record. Do you know who doesn’t like that record? Which I was really bummed out about because I really wanted to give it to her? HILARY DUFF. Which sucks.

Some people don’t know what’s good for them.
I sent it to her, well I didn’t – Patrick Berger actually sent it to her because his first ever production was a Hilary Duff album track called something like ‘Punk Rock Kiss’. Anyway we sent it over and her people were like, ‘this is NOT cool enough for Hilary’. And now I’m glad she didn’t want to take it.

Maybe they were right though – in her hands it could have sounded quite uncool, whereas because you are actually inverted-commas-cool, you can get away with something uncool?
HEY. I don’t think ‘Boom Clap’ is uncool.

No, but you can imagine a shiny pop person singing it and it being too much. 
Okay, I take that.

Will it be a hit in the UK?
I don’t know. I have a strange relationship with the UK, I don’t know what’s going to happen over here. My new attitude is: fuck everything. Which is the attitude I took when I was going to make that punk album. And when I was making that album I was like, I’m going to Sweden, I’m not going to talk to my record label, I’m gonna turn my phone off and I’m just going to write this album and not care about anything else. And as soon as I stopped stressing and having panic attacks about tiny minute details everything started being cool again. So I’m not worried about anything now. If things are doing good that’s great, but I don’t get worked up.

Do you feel that too much power in the music industry is held by people with little to no taste in music?
I think that’s half true. What I think is that there are some people with great taste, who are at the top of their game, in the music industry. People who enjoy starting trends. But I feel like a lot of people at the top of the music industry don’t keep things moving fast enough. And I understand why it takes such a long time for music to translate far and wide, but I feel like we’re in an age now where things can move so fast that there isn’t a need to be listening to, say, house music any more. That’s not a diss to house music, but do you know what I mean? I feel like things get stuck on a loop and there’s so much more exciting music underneath that might eventually come through but it just takes too long. People are too fixated on replicating trends to a lesser level, know what I mean?

Well that loop you mentioned – the start of that loop is always interesting. So the deep house thing was interesting, but the upshot of that is a load of chart music with no tune that misses the point. 
It’s so easy to make music now, as long as you have a computer and the desire to make music, and that’s a great thing, but there needs to be a harsher filter. Also what I’ve definitely learned is that people always talk about ‘taking risks’ but nobody takes fucking risks! ‘I Love It’ was seen as a risk – now when you listen to that song, it just sounds like an EDM song. That song was considered something really different…

But it did sound different though, it only sounds more normal now because it was so popular. 
Right, but what I’m talking about is that there’s like, millions of artists who actually sound different. And I know it has to translate to ‘people who like Pitbull’ or whatever but I don’t feel like there are really that many boundaries.

When your stuff didn’t make it onto the Britney album were you philosophical about it or were you a bit ‘oh fuck off will.i.am we’ve given you amazing stuff here’?
Well the thing is, I know this sounds like me covering my ass now, but Starsmith and I were a bit shocked that they wanted us to finish that song for the Britney album. Because we didn’t think it was amazing. It was good, but it wasn’t next level. But we finished it anyway and they were into it, but it didn’t end up on the album. I didn’t actually buy the album – maybe that makes me a bad fan but I liked ‘Perfume’ and ‘Work Bitch’ which I thought was really interesting – but I’m not mad at all. I’m down with will.i.am. I’m really into ‘Feeling Myself’ at the moment, it’s a next level song.

will.i.am has about one great song a year, then four shit ones. 
I’d give him more than once a year! To be fair. I don’t know how much he plays a part in his lyrics but some of those lyrics on his songs are incredible, I personally think.

What’s the next corner that pop’s going to turn? You’re probably in sessions with people hearing stuff that’s going to come out next spring, or next Christmas. So what’s pop going to sound like in 2015?
Maybe it’s just me but I’m hearing a lot of kind of dancehall, reggae-influenced songs. So that might go down. Maybe that could be something that’s going on, I don’t really know. I just go into a room and do my thing. Maybe that’s the corner it will turn! A Charli XCX corner!

What’s the most ridiculous thing you’ve ever seen on one of those lists record labels send round when they’re looking for songs to give to artists?
The one time I actually saw one of those lists was when Lindstrøm’s manager sent it to me – because I was on it! It had ‘Charli XCX – looking for atmospheric tracks that could have been on the Drive soundtrack’. And I was like, ‘hold on! Who’s fucking done this?!’ I got so mad. I think it also had something really funny like ‘Crystal Castles looking for reggae songs’ or something weird.

Just to recap on a couple of points, did that Britney track ever leak?
It didn’t.

What was it called?
I’ll tell you what, William Orbit tweeted about it the other day so why don’t you ask him? Hit him up.

Is it alright with you if he puts that song on his SoundCloud?
No. Because I don’t think it’s good, remember? I don’t want that song to be out in the world.

It’s interesting that near the start of this interview you were saying you need to think a song is cool in order to give it to someone, but in this instance you were happy to let out a song you didn’t think was good. 
Er… I don’t know. I just don’t think it’s that great. But do you know a song that is great, that I wrote? The Ryn Weaver song! That’s pretty sick. Yes. She’s very cool and that song’s very good, I’m glad people are listening to that.

And what else do you have coming up?
Everything else is going on behind the scenes right now, but I’m cooking up a storm. I have a feeling that I might do something kind of magical this year. That’s how I’m feeling right now.

And how has the Rihanna stuff been going?
(Stupendous pause) Fine! (Another pause) I haven’t really done anything for it, so…

No, I haven’t done anything for it.

That was a disgraceful trick question wasn’t it. I didn’t even have any inkling that you had or hadn’t been working on Rihanna. 
I haven’t! I haven’t been working on that.

And you’re not going to?
I’m actually not.

And what was the meeting you were in before you picked up the phone?
Oh my God! Please! I’m going to hang up!

Anything to add?

Anything you’d like to retract?

Anything else?
Is this bit all going to go in?

Oh my God. Leave me alone. I’m going to hang up now.


‘Boom Clap’ is a) amazing and b) pre-orderable now.

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A nice chat with Josh from Union J http://www.popjustice.com/interviewsandfeatures/josh-union-j-interview-2014/128036/ http://www.popjustice.com/interviewsandfeatures/josh-union-j-interview-2014/128036/#comments Thu, 19 Jun 2014 07:09:45 +0000 http://www.popjustice.com/?p=128036 Hello Josh. So from what I gather the general idea is this: Union J! They’re back! They’re a bit more about ‘the music’! There you go! Right?
That is the idea, yes. Hopefully the second album is going to be a real statement that we make about being here to try different music, try different things and hopefully have some more success.

Which is all very well but the big question is what’s going to be happening with your hair during this album campaign because as you’re no doubt well aware, you do have some of the most beautiful hair, on a man, in pop.
I’m not sure about that.

People talk about ‘difficult second album’, but what about the difficult second haircut? To be fair Emeli Sandé will have exactly the same problem.
Well my hairdresser was talking to me the other day about this, and he did say that what we’re going to do is step it up for the second album. I said, “I have no idea – you’re the expert.” And he likes the idea of a kind of rockabilly thing. So… Maybe that will be the second haircut. A bit of a curl in the middle.

Maybe, but maybe not as Alex Turnerish. A bit more Josh Cuthbert, you know? I don’t even know what Josh Cuthbert means, but whatever it does mean, that.

We’ll come closer to defining what Josh Cuthbert means later on in the interview but for the time being, please discuss your new single for readers who may not have heard it yet. You’ve got about thirty seconds. 
Okay. Well obviously the World Cup is currently kicking off and the song – in a weird way – has a bit of a World Cup feel to it. It’s got some chanty “oh”s, it’s a feelgood song. It’s a summery song. It’s funny how a lot of songs in the summer don’t sound very summery, isn’t it? Hopefully people will enjoy listening to it with their roofs down in the summer.

You specifically mean people in cars, right?

You don’t want people having the roofs removed from their houses.
No. Although I’m sure all the roofing people, and the loft insulation people, will love me for suggesting that people take their roofs off.

Have you gone into business with a load of builders, meaning that you get a cut of all their fees?
Yes. We’ll earn a fortune. We’ll probably earn more than we do from music sales!

It’s important to find innovative new revenue streams. 
Times are tough – you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do.

Most songs sound like at least one other song. What would you say your single sound like? 
Don’t laugh but it sounds like ‘The Lion Sleeps Tonight’ from The Lion King. The chants are very similar to that. But in terms of another band or another style, and I was saying this to the head of our label the other day, but do you remember Keane? The band Keane? If you can imagine what Keane were like ten years before they came out, so when they were our age, that’s what it sounds like.

I think Keane were actually about your age when they came out.
Really? I didn’t know that. They must have just looked a bit older.

Is your new single as good as the current 5 Seconds Of Summer single which is, let’s face it, amazing?
I definitely think it stands up to some of the stuff those guys have done, yes.


On the landscape of pop as it stands, where and what are Union J?
Well with the exception of George we don’t play instruments so therefore we’re more of a stereotypical boyband than some of the others out there now…

How about ‘classic boyband’?
Yes. Yes that’s the way to describe it. We’re a classic boyband trying to have the success that a lot of the other classic boybands have in the past. That’s the best way of describing where we are.

You mentioned the head of your label earlier. And just to recap on what’s been going on: you came out. You released an album. It was a modest success, shall we say?

It wasn’t a multi-platinum behemoth, it wasn’t a complete fiasco, it just came out, some people bought it, they liked it, you got dropped anyway, but now you have a new label and things are fine. Is that correct?
That’s correct, except we didn’t get dropped from the label. After the first album sort of happened, we sat down with our management and Sony and talked about the best step forward, and we all decided that the best step forward was to move from RCA to Epic. Basically because they’ve got an international vision for us that perhaps we didn’t have before. And Epic have already put us with some great writers and producers who we’ve been so lucky to work with, and it’s a match made in Heaven so far.

And RCA were just like “okay, fair enough, see ya”?
Well we had a great working relationship with RCA, and we’re thankful to them for giving us the first opportunity to release music because without them we wouldn’t have released an album. So we have nothing but the utmost respect and gratitude towards RCA, but sometimes things just don’t work out.

Re these great writers and producers. Are they really great, or is it just whoever’s around?
We went to LA a week or so ago to work with Diane Warren, and you can’t get much more successful than Diane Warren.

Well there’s Ryan Tedder. 
Yep. And we’ve got a record off him as well.

Yes, we’ve put the vocals down. We hope it will make the album – we’re working on the overall sound of the record now and it’s down to decisions made by the label in the next few months. But yes, we’ve been working with incredible writers and producers.

Surely if you’ve got a decent Ryan Tedder song you don’t go “ooh, is the album going to be cohesive”, you go “bugger cohesion, let’s whack in some Tedder”?
Well yes. We’ve got the song, we’ve recorded it…

What’s it called?
I’m not allowed to say.

That would actually be a goodish name for a song. 
It would! But yes, obviously a Ryan Tedder song is a Ryan Tedder song and they’re all incredibly well written, so we’d be silly to let a Ryan Tedder song slip. If it has a different sound to the rest of the record, it can easily be tweaked.

A little tweak of the nipples. 
EXACTLY. Just like that. Nice and firm. (???)

Imagine Ryan Tedder has one of those nice Bisley filing cabinets with six drawers in it. Songs of varying quality divided between the drawers. Top Drawer, Bottom Drawer, four in between. Which of the drawers did he have your song in? 
I’m going to go for nearer the top than the bottom. We’re yet to hear it back with our vocals on. Fingers crossed we’ve done a great song justice and that when the song comes back it sounds like something from that top metal drawer with the star on it.


Do you think in general Union J are more top than bottom?
I think we’ve got some unfinished business. We’d love this second album to be more successful – we’re bang on in the middle at the moment. We had a successful first year, not just with records but with merchandise and things like that.

The dolls!
Yes the dolls, and a fragrance and a deal we’ve just done with Claire’s Accessories. So as soon as our music’s success matches our merchandise’s success we’ll be all good.


Do you think the extra cash coming in from your other endeavours made the band more appealing for Epic, in that they might not have taken you on without it?
I think anyone, regardless of how many records they sell, will always be more appealing to a label if they have more money coming in from merchandise. It helped us, I imagine, but they never really spoke to us about that specifically. They basically said, “we see a lot of potential in you – if we give you the right songs and the right platform and put you in with the right producers then the world’s your oyster.”

When they said “we see a lot of potential in you”, was there someone in the corner activating a comedy cash till ‘KERCHING’ sound effect?
There actually was, it was our day-to-do manager. He sits under the table playing sound effects. That’s what he’s employed for – he’s got to do something with his time.

Of the top writers and producers you’ve been working with, who wrote and produced the single?
It’s actually written by guys who haven’t actually done too much, but who are hungry for it.

Which sometimes makes sense, because then you get the top drawer stuff, rather than the two-drawers-down stuff.
Exactly. Actually I was a bit unfair on them – they’ve had some success. It’s a company called Red Triangle, and Josh Wilkinson. They’ve had cuts with 1D and 5 Seconds Of Summer and stuff like that. They’re up and coming, is what I mean. And in a way we are too. And we wanted to go with the song that makes most sense as the first single.

And also, much as we might get excited in interviews like this about who’s written a particular song, people don’t really listen to the radio and go “hm, who wrote that song”. They just think, “was that song amazing, or was it not?”
Yes. If it’s the right song it’s the right song.

It’s interesting that you said you were up and coming, considering the profile you already have.
It’s just a question of keeping our feet on the floor. The first year was great: we had a lot of success with what we did, but this feels like a fresh new start for us. It feels like we’re just beginning now, really. We’re really involved with the A&R decisions and we’ve been writing on the album – we’ve written six or seven songs that might be on the album – so without wanting to take anything away from the first year we had, it feels like a fresh start.

Which is a better attitude than behaving as if you’d definitely made it. Because then you probably would get dropped. 
Well yes. We’re very hungry. Particularly myself – I’ve played sports all my life and I’m always competitive in what I do. It’s what drives me on to get up in the morning, do long days and work.

So with that in mind were you disappointed with how the first album did?
No, not at all. The first album could have done better, but it could have done worse. All we can do is make sure we put in 100% effort every single time we leave our front doors as Union J. We’ve never had it easy – X Factor was tough for us when we were in the bottom two those times, for instance. But we got through that, and that’s the mentality we have: we’re fighters. We put in a lot of hard work and, fingers crossed, it’ll pay off.

Do you look back on things not going better with a sense of rage and resentment, or are you more philosophical about it?
We had a year doing what we love doing, as we’re still here today so that’s great. We look back and take the positives and work on the negatives.

What do you consider to be the central tenets of your own, personal philosophy?
I try to do as many things now that I did before I was in Union J. I try to keep up with friends and family, play sports, things like that. Life’s too short not to have fun.

What do the rest of you do once George is tucked up in bed?

He’s probably asleep by about eight, right?
Are you saying that because he looks a bit younger?

Yes, it is a hilarious joke.
Bless him. Well to be honest all I do is play FIFA. That’s literally all I do. It sounds sad but that’s pretty much my life. At the moment my life is dominated by the World Cup and Union J, it’s like being in a relationship with two different people. I need to juggle them and make sure I give each as much attention as I possibly can. And the World Cup only comes round every four years!

A chance in pop comes once in a lifetime Josh.
That probably wasn’t my best answer, was it?

And actually chances in pop do come around more than once, because at one point you were nearly in The Wanted. Are you glad you didn’t end up in the 21st Century’s most charmless boyband?
Do you know what, The Wanted had a really successful career. They released some great songs, they had some success over in America which is easier said than done, and if Union J have the same career as The Wanted then I certainly won’t go to my coffin wishing we’d done better. And we know the boys personally and they’re wicked fellas.

Are they?

Are they though?

Aren’t they a bit ‘hashtag ladbatz’?
Well they’re not your stereotypical boyband but maybe that’s why they worked, and why they had a great fanbase while they were around.

You don’t have an individual Wikipedia page, just an entry on the main Union J one. What do you think this says about your role in the world of pop?
Do you know what, I quite like that. I quite like that we’re just there as Union J. The people who get behind us and get us in the charts and stuff know our individual personalities, but I quite like the idea that we’re on there as a group, it feels like it reflects how we want to work as a team and fight the world together.

Your individual entry on the band’s Wikipedia page says this: “Josh is loud and is known to swear a lot.”
That hasn’t changed since The X Factor. I have no idea why people think I swear a lot.

What’s the best swear word?
I think watching Harry Potter, when Ron says “bloody hell”, is the best swearing. It’s not too offensive, but it gets all the anger out.

Also on your Wikipedia page: “He’s also known as the ‘Funny One’ in Union J.” FUNNY ONE IN INVERTED COMMAS.
(Laughs) Oh dear. One inverted comma would be fine but two seems a bit harsh. The thing is, when we all get tired, I’ll always try to make a joke regardless of whether it’s funny. And people laugh if it’s funny, but they’ll also laugh if it’s really not funny. So, er, it’s win/win, isn’t it?

Well this interview has gone quite well.
It’s gone alright considering I’m driving.

You’re driving?
I’m driving up to Nottingham to pick up my car.

Have you stolen a car?
Yes, I’ve nicked a Ford Ka. (Pause) No, it’s a hire car.

Thank goodness. Goodbye!

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Interview by Peter Robinson
Published on April 24, 2014

It’s a Thursday afternoon, and Popjustice joins Lily Allen high above the streets of London.

For this chat we have agreed to do an interview based on questions tweeted in by Popjustice readers. It is agreed by all parties that this will be jolly entertaining.

A tweet is sent, alerting people to the existence of an interview scenario, and while we wait for questions to come in we start things off with some general chitchat.

This is how it all unfolds.

How ambitious are you? Sometimes you seem like you don’t give a fuck.
I do give a fuck. You know what, my new mantra is this: ANT AND DEC. Ant and Dec. I might get their names tattooed on each wrist. Because they smile, and they never complain, and it seems to work for them and I wish I could be more like that. My other mantra is that I don’t seem to have any long term goals, it’s not about world domination, I just want enough people to buy this record for my record company to let me do it again. It’s a great job and I really enjoy the process of making music. And if I can keep doing that then I’ll be really happy.

But you do see it as a job, rather than as some sort of calling or a thing you feel emotionally or spiritually compelled to do?
Well I think we all have to work. Just for our own sanity – we have to get up in the morning and do something. And this is the only thing that I know how to do. So yes I do see it as a job in a simple sense, but I also know that I’m really lucky to be able to do this for my job.

tovebig2There’s quite a lot of complaining on the album.
I didn’t really notice that until I did a track-by-track interview about it. (Laughs) “And this is ANOTHER one where I’m really grumpy and hate everyone…” I’m probably more moany on this record than I have been on past records because I wrote the majority of it while I was pregnant and hormonal and feeling a bit miffed at not seeing any of my mates, and none of my mates coming to see me. And having gone through some pretty shit stuff. So yes, I felt pretty moany.

Do you think it’s interesting that one of the first popstars who arrived through the wonders of social media…
Hates it?

Well, more that it seems like you live through social media, and your only connection with where you came from is through other people’s Instagram and Twitter accounts? Is it quite tragic?
Yes it is tragic… But I don’t think it’s necessarily true. These days everything is driven by the internet. But there’s just so much shit on there that’s not real, you know?

What’s your favourite least favourite Lily Allen fact off the internet?
I can’t think off the top of my head. But, like, Wikipedia is not a real reference. Just because something’s on Wikipedia, THAT DOESN’T MAKE IT REAL! That’s what makes me come across as a cunt! I sit down in interviews and people go “YOU SAID THIS!” and I’m like, “no! I didn’t say that! I was misquoted!” And they go “OOOH, ANOTHER ‘MISQUOTE’!” And I go, “but it WAS a misquote!” And so it continues.

Is there anything you’d like to set the record straight on in this interview?
No! I don’t care any more! But I just find it odd. Odd and funny. And you say that I only exist in social media, but no. What you see of me only exists in social media. It’s the only place where you can see me.

So are you saying the image you put across of yourself is dishonest?
No, but if you saw me in my house, then you’d see that what I put across on social media is perhaps 20% of my day, and the other 80% is changing nappies and doing bathtime and making dinner for my babies. I don’t tweet about that because some things should be left untweeted.

But your big thing as a popstar seems to be “I am honest, this is me, I am very much on the level with my fans”… So is it therefore dishonest if you don’t show parts of your life?
The reason I leave that stuff out is that there’s a sort of grey area within British media and the press: I don’t know where the line is drawn where my children are concerned. So I don’t mention their names in interviews, I don’t put pictures of them online and I don’t talk about them on Twitter. Because I don’t think it’s my right to say that they’re for public consumption. It’s their lives. We all know that when children turn into teenagers they’ll throw any fucking thing at their parents, and I don’t want to be responsible for them screaming at me going “WHAT FUCKING GAVE YOU THE RIGHT TO MAKE ME FAMOUS?”

tovebig2Maybe they’ll be annoyed that you chose not to make them famous!
Maybe they will! And I can say, “if you want to be fucking famous go and do it yourself like your mum did.”

What’s the best song that didn’t make the new album?
A song called ‘I Don’t Mind Babe’.

What’s that about?
Some bitches.

Specific bitches?
No. Bullying bitches. Nasty girls. Like school bullies, but grown ups.

Which brings us to one song that is on the album: ‘URL Badman’.
Have you heard it? (Bursts out laughing) It’s not about you, honestly.

It’s a dismissive song about online commentators – there’s a line spoken from their perspective, “it’s not for me, it must be wrong”. What’s the difference between you ‘just being honest’, which seems to be the ultimate defence rolled out by people when they’re being fucking rude, and the people you dislike also ‘just being honest’? Is having an opinion only alright if you’re Lily Allen?
Well they’re just being driven by something else, which isn’t honesty as much as it’s about [website] hits. I’m already famous, I don’t need to pull people in. I don’t need to make a shock or a song or a dance about everything.

If you were a successful artist returning to the world in 2006, and you saw new artists like Lily Allen coming through social networks like MySpace, you would probably have been a bit “I don’t understand this, what’s going on, I can’t get my head around it and these new artists completely get it”. And now it’s you coming back into a pop landscape that depends on an even more advanced version of all that. And I wonder if you look at artists who are digitally native pop acts… Well, do you feel separated from the pulse of pop in the same way an older artist might have in 2006?
I always found insincerity a bit difficult to sit with. When I look at other people’s Twitter feeds there’s a lot of that… Listen. I love my fans. They bought me my house. They pay for my children’s existence and I couldn’t be anything but grateful for everything they’ve ever given me and the opportunities they’ve let me have. BUT. There’s something a little bit patronising about telling people that all day every day. ‘Retweeting’ this, ‘favourite for this, retweet for that’. Who’s got the fucking time. Who’s actually got the time? And is it actually the person it seems to be?

It’s the social media manager at the label.

What’s the main difference between this album and your previous two releases?
The difference is that on my first two albums when I’m angry on those records it’s generally directed towards one person. Specific people who’d pissed me off, usually in the ‘love arena’. And happier and cheerier songs were on a larger scale – songs like ‘Everything’s Just Wonderful’ were directed at the world. Whereas this time round the happy songs are directed at my husband and family, and the angry songs are directed at the world.

Who do you think is actually fine?
My husband. And Adele – I think she’s incredible, and I love the way she does things on her own terms. She did that before she was successful, actually – I have a lot of love and admiration and respect for her. She’s not scared of losing anything, you see – it doesn’t mean anything to her. She’s not materialistic.

It would be quite good if she beyoncéd an album.
If she what?

tovebig2Beyoncéd an album. Just suddenly released it.
I think she will do that. I have an inkling.

Just a hunch?
Just a hunch.

Based on nothing?
Based on nothing.

What’s Adele’s new stuff like?
I have no idea.

How many songs have you heard?
I… Haven’t heard any. (Laughs)

It’s very difficult, in this post-Beyoncé landscape, for a pop fan to go to sleep at night. Is it safe to go to sleep tonight?
I think you can overthink these things. What Beyoncé did was amazing in a lot of ways just because it got everybody in a tizz. I have to say, I only listen to ‘Drunk In Love’. They spent a lot of money on that album and people spent a lot of money buying it, but I’m only listening to ‘Drunk In Love’. It was very clever.

Apart from your husband and Adele, who do you like?
Who else do I really like and think is doing great? I’ll tell you who’s been getting a hard time: that Michael McIntyre. I really like his chat show.

I enjoy it!

Are you just saying this because it makes you feel better about your own chat show?
No, I just think… Well, I sometimes peruse the Daily Mail of an afternoon. And I can see when people are gone for, just because viewing figures haven’t been ‘successful’ even though they don’t work in TV and have no real idea what a good viewing figure is. People who are good at what they do, they’re just getting on with it… There’s something about us as British culture that we like to just drag those people through some shit.

So you like your husband, Adele, and Michael McIntrye?

That’s it?
That’s it! Everyone else is a cunt! Oh, I like Beyoncé as well.

You mention Beyoncé on your album, in ‘Come On Over’.
A few people have said to me, “you’re going to piss off so many people by namechecking this person and that person” and I think, “well, yes”, but I’ve always made a thing of social commentary and commentary on pop culture, and I don’t think you can do that unless you namecheck the people at the forefront of that culture. Actually I still need to write letters to Rita Ora and Cara Delevingne. In actual fact the song where I appear to slag off Rita and Jordan ['Insincerely Yours'] is very much the same premise as ‘Cheryl Tweedy’ all those years ago. It’s not about them, it’s about the idea of them – how the media perceive them. It’s about how the way the media perceive them as entities and how that actually has nothing to do with how they are in real life. And Delevingne rhymes with magazine.

You’re actually going to write a letter saying no really, it’s fine, your name just rhymes with magazine?
YES! (Laughs)

Shall we have some ‘reader questions’?


I will hopefully continue to make music.

Depending on what?
My record company picking me up for another option.

How likely is that?
Ask me in a month. No actually, I will always make music. Whether it’s under the Lily Allen ‘brand’ or not. Actually the dream for me is to write musicals.

How’s the Bridget Jones musical going?
It’s finished and it’s brilliant. But I don’t know if it will ever see the light of day.

I cannot divulge.

What’s the best song you’ve written for Bridget Jones?
It’s called ‘Yummy’ and it’s Bridget singing to a fridge.

A love song to a fridge.


Lily is coming to France on Monday, so yes.


FLEET. No, actually, Chieveley. It’s where I get my last coffee just before I go home. It’s got a drive-thru Starbucks.


Seven. Ten being covered in crap.



Would you like to work with William Orbit?
I’d prefer to work with Stuart Price.

Why haven’t you?
I don’t know. I was sitting next to him at the Brit Awards and found him to be a truly jolly fellow.

He is, by literally all accounts, a joy to work with. Maybe you could do a disco album with him.
If enough people buy this one I’ll give it a go!


I wouldn’t say that was sweet. I’d ask how they got into my dressing room!


No, but I will refer you to ‘Insincerely Yours’ and hope that you enjoy that just as much.

A lot of people are just asking for your favourite song off ‘Sheezus’.
Well, it’s ‘Sheezus’. Do you like the title?

I thought it was a joke to start with.
I’m still LOLing to myself. I think it’s hilarious. Some people are just so offended by it, it makes me laugh how up in arms people get about these things.

[At this point please note that in typically unprofessional fashion we can't now find all the relevant Twitter questions for screengrabbing purposes so basically if you see a blue bird it's a question off Twitter.]

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoAre you okay with ‘Our Time’ being a single?
Yes! (Pulls face)

‘Pulls face’ in brackets.
Love it.

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoIf you didn’t have to sell any records to people, what would the first three singles have been?
‘Hard Out Here’, ‘Sheezus’, ‘Insincerely Yours’. Or ‘Close Your Eyes’. Or ‘As Long As I Got You’.

New-Twitter-Bird-Logo‘Pure Shores’ or ‘Black Coffee’?
Black Coffee. It’s one of my most played on iTunes.

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoAre there any sad songs you can dance to on ‘Sheezus’?
Sad songs you can dance to?

The best type of song. Robyn does those well.
‘Hard Out Here’? That’s a sad song. Because it’s about something that’s quite sad. And it’s danceable, I think.

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoCan you rank your albums 1-3? Which is best?
Well I thought they were all the best at the time of release but I’d say this one, ‘Sheezus’, is Number One, ‘It’s Not Me, It’s You’ at 2 and ‘Alright, Still’ at 3.

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoWhat’s the best advice you’ve ever been given?
Just to be nice to people on the way up because they’re the ones who’ll be there for you on your way down, which is inevitable. It happens to everyone.

Are you on your way up or your way down at the moment?
I don’t know. I’m figuring that one out. I’m surfing the wave between success and failure, and praying for a good outcome.

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoCan you do Eurovision next year please?

Has there ever been a point…

…where you’ve thought…

“Maybe I could do Eurovision”?
No. No. Just, no.

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoWho prepares your tax return?
O J Kilkenny Associates, although I did get one of those letters yesterday that said something about self assessment. In the bin.

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoWhy did you release ‘Hard Out Here’ while ‘Somewhere Only We Know’ was still riding high in the charts?
The record company came to me with the idea of doing ‘Somewhere Only We Know’ and there was a negotiation between me and the record company: I said, “okay, I will do ‘Somewhere Only We Know’, for which I will not take a fee and will probably see no financial gain, only if you pay for a video for ‘Hard Out Here’ just for it to appear in its viral capacity.”

Well that went well.
Well I think it did actually. If you look at the thumbs up versus thumbs down on YouTube, there are more thumbs up than there are thumbs down.

So you didn’t want to do ‘Somewhere Only We Know’?
No, I did. I knew that ‘Hard Out Here’ as a song – before the video was shot – was one of the more important moments on the album. But I also thought that because it had the word ‘bitch’ on it, it wasn’t going to get played on the radio. So the only place for it to exist was on the internet in a viral capacity, but I wasn’t going to be able to get the label to pay for a video unless I had some kind of bargaining tool. So when John Lewis came along and said “would you pitch for this?”, I was like, “yes, if you guys put up the money for this”. And they said, “yeah, yeah, sure we will, oh hang on we haven’t got any money so let’s get E-Lites and Beats By Dre and a load of other people to pay for it instead.” (Laughs) I do actually really like ‘Somewhere Only We Know’, and it’s come in handy for those little acoustic gigs.

No. Because I don’t think we exist on levels, I think we exist in our own right.

But you could say, for instance, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga and Rihanna are all on a certain level. And…
Do you know what, I don’t want to hear this! (Laughs) I don’t want to know! The thing is I don’t really put people in bands. I’m sure the marketing people at my label could tell you exactly what level I’m on, but I don’t want to know about it.

Have you ever had any market research done about yourself?
I accidentally got copied in on a whole bunch of it and reading it was one of the most horrible moments of my life. They don’t actually tell the people what it is that they’re listening to. So a lot of it was just people going “is this Lily Allen? IT FUCKING IS LILY ALLEN”. “IF THIS IS HER I THOUGHT SHE’D FUCKING RETIRED THE STUPID CUNT!” (Laughs) This is about six months ago, too, so it really set things off well. The thing is, people who take part in market research: are they really representative of the marketplace? Probably not.

I find that kind of thing really interesting.
I find it totally unhelpful. My mum’s a film producer and they do these market research screenings, and more often than not it’s just like school – people don’t have opinions but because they’re asked for them they come up with something and then it becomes a statistic. It’s like, he didn’t actually think that, he was just trying to impress the bored-looking girl on Row 3 and he thought this could be his in with her. I’m yet to see an example of market research where it’s actually good.

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoIs that fringe the basis of a timeshare arrangement with Jessie J?
Yes. I’m now bisexual. The fringe and sexuality are interlinked, we’re going to swap back and she’s going to be bisexual again when her fourth single is out, and I get my fringe back.

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoWhat’s your favourite beverage?
Vodka, and tea. I do like a vodka and soda water at the end of a long day.

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoHow do you stop your fringe getting greasy?
There’s been much talk of my greasy fringe on the Mail Online comments section. People are always talking about how grubby I look and how greasy my fringe is. (Laughs) It’s the source of much amusement for me and my husband. Why do people care about my fringe? Dry shampoo kind of works but I’d have to do it three times a day – I’ve got quite a big forehead, you see, and the sweat from my forehead goes into the fringe.

So if you had a smaller spam this might not be a problem?
Well I can only speak from my own experience but I imagine if my forehead was slightly smaller… Well, maybe I wouldn’t even have a fringe, it’s only there to cover up my forehead.

How much smaller, in centimetres, would you like your forehead to be?

New-Twitter-Bird-LogoDo you like the Rita Ora single?
Yes, I think it’s great.

Air Balloon would have suited her quite well.
Do you think? (Pointed pause)

Would you like to write for other artists?
I have! I wrote ‘Mr C’ for Nina Nesbitt, which is her next single I think. I wrote it with Steve Mac and Karen Poole.

Beyond Nina Nesbitt is there anyone in the world of pop you’d like to write for?
Well! I ‘may’ have a pseudonym. I ‘may’ have a writing name, and I ‘may’ have written other songs!

Has that happened?
I don’t want to divulge.

This is an interview. Answer questions. Has that happened?

With whom?
I’m not going to tell you.

Male or female?

A band?
You really care! (Chortles) One day you’ll find out.

Is ‘one day’ a clue?
(Shrugs elaborately, pulls frog face)

Is it actually a good song? Or was it just so shit that you wanted your name off it?
(Elaborate shrug, frog face)

Is this all bollocks?
(Another elaborate shrug, ludicrous frog face) COME ON! MOVE IT ON! NEXT QUESTION!

Okay. But has it come out in the last twelve months!
SHUT UP! SERIOUSLY! (Pause) It might be more than one…

If I tweet you a link to a song will you admit if it’s you?
(Olympic-standard shrug and frog face)


You are being deliberately arseholey about this.
I am.

To conclude, then, is there anything you would like to say to the people of Popjustice?
Yes: come on guys, don’t spend as much time on Popjustice. There’s more to the world than that. (Laughs) Now that was arseholey.

‘Sheezus’ is out May 5, and you can pre-order it on iTunes now.

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