Cher Lloyd - Sticks + Stones

[*****]

She certainly has the potential to crack the States.

Stop. Why? Because she "raps"?

No, not just because she raps. The whole package--image, musical style--is completely catered and influenced by American music. She's so suited to the US music scene that it's a no-brainer that she has huge potential to do well in that market.

[Maureen]

The whole package--image, musical style--is completely catered and influenced by American music. She's so suited to the US music scene that it's a no-brainer that she has huge potential to do well in that market.

They have a million, more-talented and savvy Cher Lloyds in America. What about her would make her stand out? The fact that she looks about 35?

[*****]

The whole package--image, musical style--is completely catered and influenced by American music. She's so suited to the US music scene that it's a no-brainer that she has huge potential to do well in that market.

They have a million, more-talented and savvy Cher Lloyds in America. What about her would make her stand out? The fact that she looks about 35?

She has star-quality that evidently you cannot see.

[Batmobile]

So does Nicki Minaj. Why settle for Cher?

[StratusJM]

So does Nicki Minaj. Why settle for Cher?

Because some people prefer Cher to Nicki?

[LegoLand]

The whole package--image, musical style--is completely catered and influenced by American music. She's so suited to the US music scene that it's a no-brainer that she has huge potential to do well in that market.

They have a million, more-talented and savvy Cher Lloyds in America. What about her would make her stand out? The fact that she looks about 35?

In the part of the market that covers the style of music that Cher does, she'd be the 'token white girl'. It's true. I'm not being racist, but it is a no-brainer that if she has success, it will be race related.

[Maureen]

But will the US prefer Cher? Cher's just Jentina part 2.

What, apart from the fact she grimaces like she's having a shit when she sings, will make her stand out from the hundreds of other wannabes out there?

[Batmobile]

So does Nicki Minaj. Why settle for Cher?

Because some people prefer Cher to Nicki?

In the US? Really?

[*****]

But will the US prefer Cher? Cher's just Jentina part 2.

What, apart from the fact she grimaces like she's having a shit when she sings, will make her stand out from the hundreds of other wannabes out there?

You obviously don't like her so you're never going to understand what star-quality other people may be able to see in her.

I think she can fit right into Fergie's spot and take her fans. Songs like Fergalicious, London Bridge, Glamorous and even Big Girls Don't Cry would be perfect for her.

[Maureen]

You obviously don't like her so you're never going to understand what star-quality other people may be able to see in her.

I think she can fit right into Fergie's spot and take her fans. Songs like Fergalicious, London Bridge, Glamorous and even Big Girls Don't Cry would be perfect for her.

Please don't tell me what I think. Regardless of my personal thoughts on her, my point is that there are plenty of talented Americans available to do what she 'does'. We don't even know what her material will be like; she was all over the place on X Factor and aside from the woeful rapping, there weren't many constants.

Perhaps your fondness for her is clouding your judgement. Star quality alone won't help her be successful in the US or indeed any territory.

[LegoLand]

But will the US prefer Cher? Cher's just Jentina part 2.

What, apart from the fact she grimaces like she's having a shit when she sings, will make her stand out from the hundreds of other wannabes out there?

You obviously don't like her so you're never going to understand what star-quality other people may be able to see in her.

I think she can fit right into Fergie's spot and take her fans. Songs like Fergalicious, London Bridge, Glamorous and even Big Girls Don't Cry would be perfect for her.

Let's face it, will.i.am will do almost anything to get so far up Cheryl's arse (he can almost see day light). So Cher will probably end up in B.E.P as a 5th member, or Fergie will mysteriously drop out.

[Batmobile]

Fergie, forced to go solo! I like that idea.

[StratusJM]

So does Nicki Minaj. Why settle for Cher?

Because some people prefer Cher to Nicki?

In the US? Really?

Obvously not because they haven't heard of her. But if people in the UK can prefer Cher to Nicki why not people in the US?

[LegoLand]

Fergie, forced to go solo! I like that idea.

But that will not do for will.i.am. As he's already planning Cher's entry to B.E.P, then her solo career 3 years later. Will.i.am will probably keep her in the band and let her dance and do an occasional big not and ad-lib.

[Batmobile]

Obvously not because they haven't heard of her. But if people in the UK can prefer Cher to Nicki why not people in the US?

Cher was on X Factor. She doesn't have that here.

I swear, everyone has said their favorite contestant from this season has a chance at breaking the US despite the fact that has happened exactly Leona times.

[StratusJM]

Obvously not because they haven't heard of her. But if people in the UK can prefer Cher to Nicki why not people in the US?

Cher was on X Factor. She doesn't have that here.

I swear, everyone has said their favorite contestant from this season has a chance at breaking the US despite the fact that has happened exactly Leona times.

X Factor gave her exposure. It didn't force anyone to like her. And I know that everyone says that their favourite contestant has a chance to break the US but Cher easily has a better chance than any other contestant this year.

[Batmobile]

Well, I don't think that's worth very much on its own, but I will agree with you there.

[StratusJM]

Well, I don't think that's worth very much on its own, but I will agree with you there.

Oh believe me I don't think she has a great chance of breaking the states at all! She just has a much better chance than the other finalists.

Connections with Will.I.Am will help her hugely though.

[Mr.Arroz]

I'm sorry, but no.

The US has plenty of people just like her who are either a) struggling to do well in this "genre" and b) are doing it just fine. I don't see why people think she has a shot in the US, when she's not even a force abroad yet. If they haven't tested Cheryl yet, don't get ahead and think Cher gets a free pass.

Bar her Keri Hilson impersonation (which demonstrates a complete lack of originality - even the outfit was copied) she has an unpleasant tone, her "rapping" would be laughed at by the urban music scene, and she's decent, at best.

And no, I don't dislike her. This is the realistic side of things..

[*****]

I'm sorry, but no.

The US has plenty of people just like her who are either a) struggling to do well in this "genre" and b) are doing it just fine. I don't see why people think she has a shot in the US, when she's not even a force abroad yet. If they haven't tested Cheryl yet, don't get ahead and think Cher gets a free pass.

I think everyone would agree that Cher has much more talent than Cheryl and that her music will be much more suited to the States than Cheryl's is.

[dinosaur]

I don't know where the impression that Cher was 'most-liked' by the crew comes from. It's utter bollocks.

She was one of the most-liked and least difficult to work with; Simon said it may times, so did Savan and Brian, and whilst they are the highest profile, I know others who would testify the same.

[dinosaur]

I'm sorry, but no.

The US has plenty of people just like her who are either a) struggling to do well in this "genre" and b) are doing it just fine. I don't see why people think she has a shot in the US, when she's not even a force abroad yet. If they haven't tested Cheryl yet, don't get ahead and think Cher gets a free pass.

Bar her Keri Hilson impersonation (which demonstrates a complete lack of originality - even the outfit was copied) she has an unpleasant tone, her "rapping" would be laughed at by the urban music scene, and she's decent, at best.

And no, I don't dislike her. This is the realistic side of things..

Such as? I can't think of many white female artists who have had mainstream success in the US with songs on which they rap and sing, and the few white female rappers that I can think of in the past were hardly able to carry a note (Lady Sov, I'm looking at you).

Cheryl is irrelevant to the discussion - she's on a different record label for a start, is a completely different kind of artist and has a completely different background and history, as well as commitments on a major UK TV show that takes up half of her year.

I don't think she is guaranteed an audience anywhere - of course she's not, you're only as strong as your last hit record whoever you are, but I think with the right push and connections, there's definitely potential.

[mikejmc5580]

Let's face it, will.i.am will do almost anything to get so far up Cheryl's arse (he can almost see day light). So Cher will probably end up in B.E.P as a 5th member, or Fergie will mysteriously drop out.

The Black Eyed Peas might be the most sick-makingly awful musical act on the planet, but they certainly aren't stupid. They have a winning formula and there's absolutely no way they're going to mess with it by bringing in a barely adequate singer/rapper who came fourth in a UK talent show.

[Ivy-Leaf]

White girl trying to rap has never worked in the real world. Did she not get booed at Tinie Tempah's gig?. That's the type of audience she's meant to cater to and they thought she was shit. Teenage girls have no time for her either as boybands have taken over..with many already picking up on her stanky attitude. I suppose she'll get the yobs on her side, who knows.

If she mainly sings, i can see her being moderately successful like Diana Vickers. That girl was hyped up beyond belief too and she didn't set the charts on fire either.

[Hyp-no-tize]

Obvously not because they haven't heard of her. But if people in the UK can prefer Cher to Nicki why not people in the US?

Cher was on X Factor. She doesn't have that here.

I swear, everyone has said their favorite contestant from this season has a chance at breaking the US despite the fact that has happened exactly Leona times.

X Factor gave her exposure. It didn't force anyone to like her. And I know that everyone says that their favourite contestant has a chance to break the US but Cher easily has a better chance than any other contestant this year.

That's exactly her problem. Despite being pimped relentlessly by Simon, the public just didn't like her and she came bottom of the voting long before the final. They had to save her twice just to get her in the final and she didn't exactly change the public's opinion when she got there. It would be sensible to see how successful she is in the UK before claiming she will take America by storm.

It's all very well having will.i.am on board thanks to her connection to Cheryl but if she actually starts to steal Cheryl's thunder as some are suggesting then you can bet Cheryl will pull the plug on that ASAP.