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  1. #22776
    Archvile6
    Guest
    Originally Posted by LewJB View Post
    It's disturbing how we were all ready with our pitchforks to chant 'BAD MOM!' but now she's playing happy families with no OK! tabloid hysterics it's 'fuck off Momney'.
    I just don't give a shit about her children, or children in general, period. Just because she's Britney Spears we're supposed be indulged by her pointless rantings about her kids? They're all she cares about, so she should probably just sit back with them and be a stay at home mom.

  2. #22777
    I, too, would rather she put them in care and focused 200% on being an amazing popstar again but hey, shit happens.
    WE LIKE TO PARTAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY.

  3. #22778
    Archvile6
    Guest
    She doesn't need to put them in CARE. She just needs to shut the hell up about them, as we all fucking get that she has children that she loves by this point. She can't even talk about her new endeavors for more than two seconds without the interview being turned into a "let us talk about Britney being a mother" ordeal. Now this "surprise" video? Thank you, Britney, but nobody honestly cares.

  4. #22779
    Nobody cares? I think you care a bit too much. You are obviously obsessed with her and track her every move, otherwise you'd never be this angry and disappointed that she's talking about her children instead of delivering the second coming of Toxic, or whatever.

  5. #22780
    Archvile6
    Guest
    I check up on her news at least weekly. The only reason I "care" is because they are LITERALLY all she talks about. Fucking literally. How many people in the industry have children but keep them to themselves and focus on their career in front of the public? Even when she's in the midst of an important era in her career, they're all she talks about. It gets old. She's gotten old. She's boring. Bye. Perhaps you're right. Peace out. Later. Enjoy "Momney" in all her full, mousey glory.

  6. #22781
    But she is on her break and won't be doing music for awhile, so I am not sure why you are blowing fuse when she mentions her kids?

    It be X Factor talk soon...

  7. #22782
    It's a sad day in the world of pop, Radar horse has passed away.

  8. #22783
    Today we've lost a legend. Everyone, may we have a moment of silence? Right here. God...

  9. #22784
    At least he died with the knowledge that he topped Mr Telephone man's poll of Britney's leading man.
    "Ardent Rihanna mud-slinger"

  10. #22785
    This might be the most tragic celebrity death ever.
    The Janines...

  11. #22786
    Whitney, Etta James, Radar horse....how many more legends do we have to lose this year?
    Yeah because Lady Gaga is the only pop star of this generation to have an iconic anthematic song. California Gurls says hi. *Eye roll*

  12. #22787
    The best song Britney has ever done is called How i Roll.

  13. #22788
    How I Roll is amazing, partly because it reminds me of this:


  14. #22789
    Originally Posted by charlestirling View Post
    How I Roll is amazing, partly because it reminds me of this:

    Unfortunately, though, she did actually spell it correctly - she handed her web team a handscrawled note, the same one that she handed to the X17 paparazzo. It was spelled role in her handwriting, they just mistook the e for a big loopy l.


  15. #22790
    But you see, she was actually referring to Kevin.

    2007ney. So clever.
    WE LIKE TO PARTAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY.

  16. #22791
    Never thought i'd say this but...2007ney, oh how I miss you.

  17. #22792
    That one note contained more personality than we have seen from Robotney in the last 4 years. Love the "OMG Is like Lindsay Lohan Like OK Like?".

  18. #22793
    It's all just very sad, isn't it. Two mass extremes - if she could harness a stable compromise she'd be a remarkable human being - but then maybe the whole 'thing' is that she doesn't want to, more than she can't. In For The Record Britney is still very much 'there'. It'll be really interesting to see if she is in X-Factor too.
    WE LIKE TO PARTAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY.

  19. #22794
    JadeFan
    Guest
    I am so confused. What even is that note/site thing?

  20. #22795
    After Umbrella-gate, she wrote an apology to X17 both handwritten, and on her website (which at this point, had a parody poll of names for Blackout - the first one involving a parody of concern she had for Lindsay after her incident in a sarcastic Valley Girl accent she used to respond to the paps).

    Sad face.
    WE LIKE TO PARTAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY. AAAAAY.

  21. #22796
    JadeFan
    Guest
    Oh ok.... weird.

  22. #22797
    I loved that poll. What If The Joke Is On You would have been perfect, though, as much as it was all in fun.

  23. #22798
    "What If The Joke Is On You" would have been brilliant. . .if the joke had actually been on us. But once you lose custody of your children and start shacking up with a paparazzi then it's really not all that funny anymore.
    Meet your new stepmom, kid.

  24. #22799
    5 Britney Spears Hits Written for Other Artists (and 5 Songs Originally Written for Britney Spears)

    What if Britney Spears had recorded "Milkshake?" How would pop be different had "Toxic" been released by Kylie Minogue? Can you imagine Janet Jackson performing "I'm A Slave 4 U" at the VMAs? Would Katy Perry have taken "Hold It Against Me" to the top as well? You might be surprised at how close we came to finding out.

    A commonly misunderstood element of pop songwriting is how songs become associated with certain artists (when, of course, artists do not write the songs themselves - and before anyone gets on his high horse, this includes almost all major artists at one point or another and is a perfectly acceptable practice). Some performers are gifted songwriters: John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Carole King, Paul Simon, Sting, Bruce Springsteen, Dolly Parton, Alanis Morissette, Gwen Stefani, Robyn, Pink, Katy Perry, Ke$ha, and Adele are among the substantial faction. Some gifted songwriters aren't quite as successful performers, e.g. Ester Dean, Bonnie McKee, Keri Hilson, Ne-Yo, Linda Perry. Some great performers aren't especially remarkable songwriters: Madonna, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Britney Spears, Beyoncé, Christina Aguilera, Justin Bieber... most of the major pop divas. And some remarkable songwriters aren't performers at all, like Cathy Dennis, Tricky Stewart, Max Martin, Scott Storch, and, when he's not being a weasel, Dr. Luke.

    A few of the latter bunch weasel their way into writing credit on many of their songs for the artistic cred and more so for the royalty payments (*cough* Beyoncé *cough* and Dr. Luke does it too *cough*), which is either dastardly or lame, depending on your angle. The one who has always been admirably honest about the whole thing is Britney Spears, who rarely writes songs (though when she does they're usually surprising) and never takes credit where it isn't due, and doesn't rise up to the bait of those who suggest that this makes her somehow less of a true artist because she knows that she's BRITNEY FUCKING SPEARS. Every songwriter alive would eat his left big toe to write a song recorded by Britney Spears, even Stefani "Sour Grapes" Germanotta herself, and many of them have tried, most of them unsuccessfully and sometimes with premium material that occasionally finds its way to another artist's successful recording. One of the many reasons for this is that just about any song is elevated by earning a spot in Britney Spears's discography ('70s cover songs arguably excepted) because Britney Spears is Britney Spears, and there's something about Britney Spears that's magic but fascinatingly impossible to pinpoint.

    While researching for an upcoming piece on hit singles that were initially written by or offered to artists other than the one(s) that ultimately made them hits, I noticed several recurring names, but none as often, on both sides of the coin, as Britney Spears. Some of the could-have-been scenarios were familiar to me, while some inspired a raised eyebrow or dropped jaw. In any event, it was clear that the Britney examples warranted a separate piece, and voila. Follow me through the shattered looking gla-hee-ass and feast your imagination on ten alternate realities in which that which we know as Britney is not, and that which we do not know as Britney in fact is.

    The Britney That Might Have Been

    1. "Telephone" (originally written for and offered to Britney Spears; ultimately recorded by Lady Gaga and Beyoncé)

    Many people are to some extent familiar with the story of how "Telephone" became a top ten hit for Lady Gaga, its writer, rather than Britney Spears, for whom it was originally written, but for those in the dark here's the rub. Before Lady Gaga became LADY GAGA she was writing tunes for Sony, and one of them, "Telephone," was sent over to Britney Spears' team, who passed, as Spears had already recorded enough tracks for her then-upcoming comeback album Circus. Later, after Gaga became LADY GAGA and was preparing her stylistically transitional EP The Fame Monster, Gaga wisely bought the song back from Sony to record as a surefire smash single for the project, not to mention a duet - with Britney Spears. However, in a characteristically brilliant bit of marketing savvy, Spears endeavored to include the cut on her upcoming compilation album The Singles Collection. Lady Gaga, who

    1. Had(s) left little doubt that her oft-repeated public disdain for the practice of lip-synching in live performances were directed specifically at Spears;
    2. Clearly needs the world to know and appreciate the enormous effort she puts into her craft because this makes her better than the kids who made fun of her in school;
    3. Has always come off as somehow offended by the effortlessness with which Britney Spears retains her place atop the pop pantheon
    4. Was at the time still only 24 years old,

    86'd the whole Gaga-Spears duet idea altogether and recruited Beyoncé for the duet, which may or may not have had something to do with Beyoncé having tapped Gaga for a remixed single release and music video of her own song "Video Phone" and thus lent hefty momentum to the still developing star earlier that year. Admittedly, Gaga and Beyoncé made great work of the single, but Spears' demo recording of the song (which was arguably the most valuable leak in the history of leaked demos) inspired a columnist at Rolling Stone to compare her favorably to Bob Dylan and thoroughly incense an impressive number of astonished readers.

    2. "Sweet Dreams My LA Ex" (originally offered to Britney Spears; ultimately recorded by Rachel Stevens)

    Legendary pop writer Cathy Dennis wrote this song for Spears as a response to Justin Timberlake's tell-all "Cry Me a River," but when Spears decided to go a different direction with her response ("Everytime," one of the more mature moments in her career) Dennis and producers Bloodshy and Avant eventually offered the song to former S Club 7 member Rachel Stevens for her debut solo single. It did OK.

    3. "Whiplash" (Originally written by and for Britney Spears; ultimately recorded by Selena Gomez and the Scene)

    During writing sessions for Circus, veteran Spears songwriter Nicole Morier sat down with Spears for a few uncharacteristic writing sessions, and the two ultimately crafted a track by producer Greg Kurstin into "Whiplash." The record didn't make the cut for Circus, but found an eager fan in Selena Gomez as she prepared her 2011 album When the Sun Goes Down. According to an interview Vertigo Shtick recently did with Morier, the absurdist/avant garde pre-chorus came entirely from the brain of Spears, who during the session retired into a room alone in the writing studio and emerged with it scribbled on her pad.

    4. "Milkshake" (Originally offered to Britney Spears; ultimately recorded by Kelis)

    This one was a bit of a head-turner. The Neptunes wrote "Milkshake" around 2001-02 and initially, or at least at one point, suggested it for Spears, but ultimately used it for the lead single off Kelis' third album, Tasty. It hit number 3 on the Hot 100 and made Kelis a household name, while it probably would have been a moderately embarrassing filler song on Britney and wouldn't have fit at all on In the Zone. The pop gods are happy with this one.

    5. "Umbrella" (Originally written for Britney Spears; offered to Mary J. Blige; ultimately performed by Rihanna)

    The "Umbrella" saga is somewhat well known, perhaps because it so dramatically exemplifies the soap opera moments behind the emerald curtain in the creation of pop music album; if you don't know it, though, let me relate to you the tale using a technique I used to use in college when studying for history exams: colloquialized storytelling.

    In January 2007, producers Tricky Stewart and The-Dream were messing around in the studio and came up with the famous beat and subsequently the remainder of a song called "Umbrella," which they correctly predicted was a surefire smash hit. They thought about who to offer it to, and immediately thought of Britney Spears, who at the time was recently divorced and at the head-shaving point in her nervous breakdown. The thinking was that Spears, whom the producers loved dearly, needed help, and a smash single might do some good in that direction.

    The Britney That Might Not Have Been

    1. "Toxic" (Originally offered to Kylie Minogue)

    This is one of the classic "what were you thinking?" seeming-blunders of pop history, although since fans of Kylie and Britney largely overlap, it's hard for fans to see this as anything less than win-win. It was certainly a win for Spears, including at the Grammys, where she collected her first (and so far only) award, for Best Dance Recording. Ever classy, Minogue has never said much about why she passed on the hit, written by "Can't Get You Out of My Head" scribe Cathy Dennis, as if content to have given Spears the opportunity to make arguably her best record to date.

    2. "Trouble for Me" (Originally written by and for Livvi Franc)

    Arguably the best cut on Femme Fatale was written by Heather Bright and Livvi Franc on acoustic guitar and intended for a project by Franc, but when Britney Spears comes a-knocking and says "I like your song, and I'd like to put it on my album - and NOT totally screw you over with royalties by giving myself writing credit," well... Bright posted a very insightful blog post about the song and Britney's business manners, which you might find interesting (I did) except that it's been taken down, which is a shame. Here's a summary.

    3. "I'm a Slave 4 U" (Originally offered to Janet Jackson)

    Some critics (myself included) have pointed to the Janet Jackson influences that began to appear in Spears' work around the time of "Slave," and it turns out the comparisons are apt. While "Slave" was likely floated by Jackson (reportedly for inclusion on Damita Jo) in an early, possibly conceptual form alone, it's still an intriguing factoid. If anything, knowing "Slave" was initially fashioned with the mature, aggressive sexuality of Jackson in mind makes it even cooler that the Neptunes decided to try it with America's girl next door - and that it worked SO WELL. But imagining Janet Jackson's "I'm a Slave 4 U" actually isn't all that difficult, is it?

    4. "Hold It Against Me" (Originally written for Katy Perry)

    Given that they share writing teams and had albums in development at roughly the same time, it's not shocking that "Hold It Against Me" was initially intended for Teenage Dream. That album didn't need another sexual pun song ("Peacock" more than suffices), and Dr. Luke, Max Martin and Spears recognized the potential in the song (co-written by hit-maker Bonnie McKee) and worked with hot new producer Billboard (responsible for most of the breakdown that changed pop) to make it into the trendsetting milestone it ultimately became. Perry, for her part, already had her two big singles for Teenage Dream (and, we would learn, several more too), which would have been nearly finished when Spears was still in early-ish stages of recording Femme Fatale, and "Hold It Against Me" would likely have been far lesser, by design, on Teenage Dream than it became.

    5. "...Baby One More Time" (Originally offered to TLC)

    This is like when Lady Jane Grey was Queen of England for about 2.5 seconds because someone thought she'd be better than the semi-bastard 20-something who would become Elizabeth I. Max Martin, who had already created the Backstreet Boys and Robyn by the time Jive sent sixteen-year-old former Mickey Mouse Club star Britney Spears to Sweden in search of, well, something (no one knew what to do with her at first, actually), but he wasn't perfect (nor is he now, although he's much closer than anyone else). Fortunately groundbreaking hip-hop/R&B group TLC had their wits about them and rejected "...Baby One More Time" while preparing mega-hit comeback album FanMail, and then a light bulb went on when Max met Britney. Thank GOD.

    http://www.vertigoshtick.com/2012/03...J6TjPKU.tumblr

  25. #22800
    Originally Posted by blaze_dave View Post
    Some great performers aren't especially remarkable songwriters Mariah Carey
    Flop article.

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